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Ok, so hopefully all the bugs are worked out from the first race. On top of practicing laps, you should also be practicing standing starts, pit stops, and getting out of sand traps.:o
Next stop we're in Joliet, IL at the Autobahn Country Club on 2/10.
hey guys..
couldn't get home in time to make the first race. grandson got operated on and that didn't happen until late in the afternoon. he is ok now and i should be able to make next race.
speaking of last race..
how many pitstops for the guys, does that get posted anywhere and times and finish order?
some of those sand traps i couldn't figure a way out of keith. once beached, it seemed you needed the hook.
was the frame rates a problem? or was it just jeff, or did others have a problem?
we all get to just show up and race - on the other hand keith, you have a lot of work in this.
we ALL thank you for that.. :checkered: :thumbsup: :trophy: thank you...
Go to the Hotlaps page here: http://home.comcast.net/~keith.carter/trackpedia/Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Santucci 33
Then click Results
Then in the top left corner, there is a white [+] that you can click to open up the race results, which should have the stops each driver used, and a lot of other info.
Usually, then after the race, Keith puts up some really cool detailed information that can be found at the top link of that page, that will show you a full race recap, and might even have the race video link in there, too.
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Video would be a cool addition to the results! Just don't show the minute and a half that I spent getting out of the sand trap @ Druids, while leading by a mile!:mad:
The same went for me too about leading and getting caught in the sand at Druids.
Jerry glad to hear the grandson is doing better.
I am going to find the link on how to to improve your frame rates by a great deal without putting much of a load on your system. it was in the coding, it might take me some time since race sim central forums are now down.
I saw so much of the sandtraps that I figured out that going from reverse to first got me out pretty quick. :)
Next race should be a little better, Thanks Keith and Doug, it was fun and frustrating, Hope I didn't get in the way too much as I was pretty much still learning how to play with everything.
Chris S
I didn't have a problem with Sandtraps until I used DOUGS setup! It only made me 2 seconds faster, so I'll let it slide. I sat in the gravel for over a lap after tryin to pass Doug, oh well, it was fun. Oh, Chris I saw your letter in SportsCar, good work, and nice camera you won:thumbsup:
Steven
so the little + sign was the trick :) thanks doug
anywho... congrats to doug, caleb and john.. and caleb did it without stopping, wow. i had a heck of a time with that much fuel in practice, even a one stop was kind of tuff. good job. i was going to use chris's strategy. 2 stops.
in certain places the reverse and forward thingy did NOT work.. i guess who ever did the mod wanted it to be like real life. next time i will just get out and hit it with a sand wedge.....
i guess now on to autobahn.. :thumbsup:
The two stops was not a planned strategy, I went in the second time to try to repair damage, that was caused by some traffic shutting the door on me. And before my stop my dyslexia kicked in and instead of setting the fuel load for the amount of laps, I set the amount of gallons instead of laps....car was heavy rest of the race.
Really? You can do that? All Ive been able to find is the pre-race setup. Where does that option live?
it's in the pitboard thing (4 screens iirc, [pit options, car status, driver performance, leaderboard]), you need to set a few buttons or such to toggle it and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmccown
Sorry about not making it... My work schedule changed, and now I have to be on the road by midnight or shortly after Thursday morning... Working to get it changed back to a later Thursday start but we'll have to see.
us to some more questions...
Chris, you said you stopped to fix damage. is damage on during the race? is it set to full?
and, if damage is set on - when you stop in the pits, saying you could there. does that fix the damage?
i also presume tire wear is set to normal, as is fuel, correct?
going to go practice now...
Yes, damage is on during the races. It's at 25% real damage. You can repair damage to a degree with a pit stop, but it will most likely not fix it 100% if the damage is bad enough so you will still have an ill handling car to some degree. When you call a pit stop to prepare your crew for you coming in, you will have all of your pit settings on the LCD. You can adjust what you want the crew to do like increase/decrease fuel load, fix damage, adjust wings, etc...
:)
went out and did some laps on course. a little tricky. my hats off to you fast guys. wow, takes some skill.
also, a neat thingy with the skins package downloaded in the game. while practicing racing in the game you get to race some of the guys from the league.
just wanted all you fast guys to know that i kicked your butts. :)
trouble is, i made you all slower than me :o and i can't do that while racing in the leauqe....
kinda neat to see all The paint jobs though.
This track could be fun in an SRF, but just too tight for an rf3. Maybe Im just really starting to hate the rf3 mod.
The track was also tight with the SRF.
I never really considered the South circuit tight other than the T1-T2 combo...I suppose my throttle foot thinks it is though. For that matter, my stopwatch thinks it is too! :p
Too tight?! I just ran the Sauber F1 on that track and what a blast!! Its only 12 seconds faster than my best in Rf3 haha... but fun!:tire:
see - they admit that their RF3 is actually an F1
and, i think they are also running square grooves on the tires..
it is all starting to come out now.......
:rolleyes:
;):tire:
Anyone gonna throw out some fast lap in car video, setups or Motec files? I would, but I'm afraid you really don't want mine. :blueflag:
Doug,
Seeing that I'm .1 behind you, I don't have much to offer except I that it did help to soften the rear sway bar and add a bit of front camber. Past that and I'm realitively stock. I'm just hoping to be consistent and remain close to the front pack.
Cheers,
Jacques
Practice your starts and prepare for tomorrow. There are no starting lights at Autobahn so you need to watch the little flag man for the green. Control your launches.
Here is the format
Please read and prepare so that minimal questions will need to be asked. Make sure you have the latest skin pack (version 2) if you haven't already raced with us. Any kind of action on track can be protested in order to be reviewed. Penalties will be awarded if deemed appropriate.
Remember... Consistency pays high dividends. Good luck! :tire:
How many laps is this race?
Hopefully there will be a good turnout tonight assuming a lot of people are snowed in. I am ready to race and not hit the sand traps like at Brands Hatch:mad:. Although, if you get far enough out in the fields at ACC, it is possible to get stuck; trust me.
out in the corn fields - is quicksand. been there a few times. sometimes you can reverse out - others, call the hook!
:o
This one is going to be interesting... keep 'er clean! 33 laps of fun and spins.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Santucci 33
They're wheat fields, trust me.
Great race everyone! Props to everyone who didn't spin, I found it pretty easy to get throttle-happy late in the race. Six spins won't get you much...
The start was clean, I somehow didn't manage to make turn 1 though...
Does the results/hotlaps site tally up points for the season? If not, I'll gladly take on the roll of keeping track of points.
Thanks again for putting together the series ApexSpeed!
Cheers,
Jacques
Soooooo... can we file official protests still?
:rolleyes:
Finally watched the race again last night. Some very unexpected driving tactics in there... :blackflag:
Yea me too! Some nice chicane cuts.:blackflag:
One MAJOR one on lap 29 going straight-line right through T9 and T10 using the grass, and picking up a good 3-4 seconds while I was chasing them down (had I known you could run 1:14s that way... geesh). Three separate incidents by my count, and while none of them changed the finishing positions at first blush, all of them were obviously intentional and could have effected the cars trying to run down the lead cars.
It's a for-fun league guys, we don't need anyone cheating in the league races or the hotlaps standings. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
I agree. I noticed at least two seperate MAJOR chicane cuts. First of all it is "supposed" to be as realistic as possible. I highly doubt anyone would take an F3 car through a wheat field if they owned one. Secondly it was made pretty clear that "entering" the track after you spin in a safe manor was priority(and flying across three corners defeats the purpose). Third, even if cutting the chicane didn't set a lap record, it still improves the time and its not fair to the people trying as hard as they can to be safe, and do the best job they can. Enforce the rules! :blackflag::meatball::blackflag::meatball: :ha:
I agree 100%. :thumbsup:
I'll have to take a look at the replay tonight. I didn't get a chance to turn on my sim box last night.
Wow...I don't feel so bad about trying so hard to keep the car on the track now.
Since this is the only sort of racing I've competed in where we can view the race in it's entirety with on-board coverage, would it be worthwhile to have a general inquiry on said actions and as a self-governing group come up with a suitable penalty?
Cheers,
Jacques
Ill be the first one to admit I cut the chicane. I was PO'ed someone knocked me off track into a spin while racing for position. If we want to make it realistic, then we shouldnt be leaning on people in open wheelers either. It didnt improve my position and no one was close enough to change positions with me.
We all log on at 9 ET to hopefully get the chance to race with someone. Yeah its a lot of fun to drive around for 33 laps only to pass a lap car or two, but come on. I agree if someone is doing it only to get a hotlap or pass someone.
Let the debating begin.
Lots of love :ha:
What lap did someone hit you?
do you guys watch the replay from? i didn't know we could do that.
:)
If you have it set up to save the replay you can go to Control- Replay Fridge in rfactor.
I watched your entire race last night, Matt, from the track cameras, as well as the in-car/roll hoop camera. I saw the contact you had with Colin in T10, and it was most definitely not intentional blocking or leaning on. In fact, he was the car clearly in front, and it's the responsibility of the car overtaking to make a clean pass (which was in heavy lapped traffic). It was an optimistic place to attempt a pass, at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colin Marklein
That's just what I saw.
Maybe that's how they do it in the pro F2000 series, though. :p ;) :kiss:
There is a Replay Fridge in the section with the offline testing that stores your fast laps, and whole sessions (if you have it turned on). I have always recorded all of the races in case something like this comes up, and it has come in handy on more than a few occasions. It also allows me to watch my race and fast laps and see what I did right and wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Santucci 33
Some people will lurk on the hotlaps server when fast guys are on, just to record their fast laps to see where they are making time. Not exactly how I want to get faster, but when every little bit counts...
Matt's third of 3 separate chicanes cut was when I was chasing him down towards the end of the race, trying to make clean laps and progress through the field. I was pulling in a good chunk every lap, and then all of a sudden, he were 5 seconds further ahead of me again—and I hadn't made a mistake. After watching the replay, that 3rd move was most definitely not in the spirit of the league—nor were the first two.
Personally, I'm in favor of points or position penalties or even a DNF. That's just completely uncalled for in this league, whether there is something on the line or not. Lots of us put a lot of time into this in the name of fun and enjoyment, and we don't want to see that ruined by poor sportsmanship.
I hope we don't see anything like this again this season.
:(
Jerry,
I think replays may be turned on by default so your system should record them. If it's not turned on, then you'll have to do so. The races are recorded and you can watch them from the "Replay Fridge" from the main menu of rFactor.
Anyone able to tell me why my snapshot or print screen won't work? I have tried ALT Print Screen/ and f12... when I try f12 it doesn't show up in the rfactor/userdata/screenshots? I hear the "camera" noise but can't find where it is puttin the file.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Inge
Even though I haven't watched the replay yet to see how deliberate it was. Next time anyone feels this way, drop back and race with the person behind you. If you want to race with someone then give up the gap you have on the next guy. Please don't resort to track cutting to catch up.
I would've raced you, Matthew. :p
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Originally Posted by Keith Carter
I agree. :thumbsup::tire:
really NEAT!
i knew i went off into the wheat field last night, i did - on lap 5 and lost a position for doing it. i kept it floored, hoping i would come out the other side without getting stuck in the quicksand. went from 8th to 9th. if there is a penalty in that - i accept.. i also tried to keep out of the fast guys way, hope i did.
i will watch latter to see what else i can learn, or anything i can do to improve.
my 2 stop strategy didn't work, but i really don't like how skatey the car is with a one or no stop fuel loads. my hats off to those of you that not only run full tanks, but still are faster than me with light tanks.
it was fun though.
:)
Exactly what I saw also. I am unable to get screen shots out but T9 Matt hit me from behind as I was following Chris. Chris was unable to move over as there were cars in front of him and behind him and he was in two very tight corners. Then after hitting me in T9 Matt nailed me hard from the rear and side in T10 causing my car to become air born and spun himself out. Honestly if anyone is guilty of "leaning" on someone it would have to be you Matt. Check out the replay it's pretty obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Carter
Ok, so even though I haven't seen it yet but it was apparent to others and himself that Matthew cut corners (admitting to it) on purpose. There wasn't a gain in position of any kind and there also wasn't a small enough time gap that I would've been able to catch him to contend for third if he hadn't cut. Aside from all that, I hadn't stated what the penalty would be for blatant misconduct before the races took place so it's hard to say x number of points or so many positions of a penalty would be fair.
Let this be a WARNING to everyone that if deemed guilty of track cutting or intentional contact will result in a 100 point deduction from your total points after the two lowest point scoring events are subtracted.
Sounds fair enough!
I made a screenshot album of a few captures I took from the race, since I can't actually shoot this sort of race. :p http://www.flickr.com/photos/3139058...7623423087754/