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    Default CRB request about front beam Mods

    What was the precise focus of the CRB front beam Mods clarification?

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    If you're talking about this, yes it would be nice to know what mods they are talking about.
    15. #38273 (Matt Clark) Small VW Beam Mod Question
    Thank you for your letter. The GCR does not support the modifications to the beam described. The FV rules, GCR section 9.1.1.C.1.B, say that "Formula Vee is a Restricted Class. Therefore, any allowable modifications, changes, or additions are as stated herein. There are no exceptions. IF IN DOUBT, DON’T." The FV rules further state in that section that "[n]o component of the engine, powertrain, front suspension, brakes shall be altered, modified, or substituted unless specifically authorized." The Club Racing Board believes the modifications described fall into this category, whereas the relocation of the steering box as done on the Citation is specifically authorized by GCR section 9.1.1.C.3.A.4.

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    Reason #1000 why the full contents of all letters should be published...

    I'm betting Matt will be happy to clarify the request when he see's this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARSHouston View Post
    .......whereas the relocation of the steering box as done on the Citation is specifically authorized.......
    What does a Citation, specifically, do with steering box location that other vees aren't allowed ??
    Or am I misreading that statement ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacratt View Post
    What does a Citation, specifically, do with steering box location that other vees aren't allowed ??
    Or am I misreading that statement ?
    Glenn
    First off, moving the steering box is not prohibited in the rules. There are several FV designs that relocate the steering box.

    I can make a good argument that moving the steering box from the stock location and removing the steering mechanism out of the foot box area of the chassis improves the safety of the car in the event of a sever frontal impact. I have a little experience with safety issues as both a driver and a car builder over the last 57 years I have been involved with FV.

    Because of the wheel base restrictions in the FV rules, getting a "clean and safe" cockpit is a challenge.

    Ed Zink came up with the steering system that I have used ever since. The steering system was first introduced on the Zink Z12. I will bet that someone did it before Zink.

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    In the interest of transparency, as I always try to do, here is the background of my letter.

    I simply had wondered if I could put an extra bracket or so on the beam for attaching things. There was some discussion both in person at the track & on Facebook, and it seemed that people viewed them as legal, as there is no performance advantage. Plus the fact people were already doing essentially what I was asking. We can talk about it all we want online, but until the CRB rules... we do not know. So I wrote the CRB.

    John Petillo then reached out via email to talk about it, I explained a bit more & gave him the below link to the Facebook discussion, and that was it.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/form...1ZMQDdwbEq%2F#


    They totally missed my point about the Citation steering box, as I was not referring to relocating the box... I was referring to the fact they are allowed to weld things on the beam, which per their reply to me, should not be legal. I guess "there are no exceptions" comes with exceptions somehow.

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