anybody know who this is?

[Rick Kirchner]

Looks like a fuel cell leak fire:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/3678562965769185

[John Nesbitt]

Looks like a fuel cell leak fire:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/3678562965769185

Helmet script is "Jack Haydu". A search brings up lots of copies of that video floating around the interwebz.

[Mike B]

Helmet script is "Jack Haydu". A search brings up lots of copies of that video floating around the interwebz.

All of them posted by him on Instagram on a daily basis.

He claims it was a rigidly mounted fuel filter that broke.

[Rick Kirchner]

interesting, when I search that name I get nothing for him.

looks like an FC, I figured someone in the community had raced with him

[Steve Demeter]

Where is the fire system???

[Peter Olivola]

He's in the SCCA database in Great Lakes Division with a Full Comp license less than a year.

[Bob Wright]

That happened at the FRP Road Atlanta race in March at turn 10A. He ended up putting the fire out himself before the EVs got there (corner workers are not allowed to cross the barriers but handed him an extinguisher). Good kid who didn't panic and did the right thing.

A lot of damage to the car, but nothing that can't be fixed. It was a broken fitting at the fuel filter.

He's currently racing a F1600 at PIRC this weekend.

[BLS]

"Good kid who didn't panic and did the right thing."

You can say that again. Remarkable awareness and perfect response.

[racpercival]

Got a question on “(corner workers are not allowed to cross the barriers but handed him an extinguisher)”. So if he did not get himself out of the car, I counted about 11 secs, would they have continued waiting and let him burn even when they had fire extinguishers that outed the fire within a few seconds?

[stonebridge20]

Got a question on “(corner workers are not allowed to cross the barriers but handed him an extinguisher)”. So if he did not get himself out of the car, I counted about 11 secs, would they have continued waiting and let him burn even when they had fire extinguishers that outed the fire within a few seconds?

Welcome to Watkins Glen.

Race there accordingly.

[Steve Davis]

Got a question on “(corner workers are not allowed to cross the barriers but handed him an extinguisher)”. So if he did not get himself out of the car, I counted about 11 secs, would they have continued waiting and let him burn even when they had fire extinguishers that outed the fire within a few seconds?

THAT raises an interesting conversation.... one that should be considered fully by SCCA and track owners that PROHIBIT corner workers from leaving their station regardless of the situation. Of course, all of us drivers must also consider being in the same situation - unable to get out on our own with no help.
Steve, FV80

[Steve Demeter]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but in the past corner workers WERE allowed to cross the barriers in certain situations.

[Rick Kirchner]

In the 80s I remember them not only crossing the barriers, but crossing the track!

[Peter Olivola]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but in the past corner workers WERE allowed to cross the barriers in certain situations.

In the past. Now, it depends on the track. Most "pro" tracks no longer allow it.

[billtebbutt]

In the 80s I remember them not only crossing the barriers, but crossing the track!

As a marshall in the 1980s, I certainly did!!!!!

bt

[John Nesbitt]

There are several reasons why flaggers rare less and less inclined/permitted to cross the track.

For one, there simply fewer, and older, flaggers than in the 70s/80s. You need to be reasonably spry to cross a hot track.

In the same way that regulation has made racing safer for drivers (fuel cells, fire systems, helmets, fire suits, etc.), one would similarly expect that for track workers. In my experience, the modal cause of death for drivers is heart attack, usually in the paddock post-session. For flaggers, it is trauma, getting hit by an out-of-control car after stepping out from safety.

[douglap1]

In the past. Now, it depends on the track. Most "pro" tracks no longer allow it.

I had the impression from speaking with some senior corner workers, that this was the case everywhere now - even a SCCA owned track like Roebling.

Back in the early '90's my S2000 car caught fire at Road Atlanta, and like an idiot I parked it across the the track from the worker station at Turn 3. At that time, a corner worker ran across the track and quickly put out the fire that the Haylon had not completely extinguished.

Fast forward to 2022, and my FC car was broken waiting on parts, so I volunteered to work a corner at Road Atlanta, and ended up at the same Turn 3 station. Before the event started I asked the corner captain, under what circumstances were we allowed over the fence, and was told we were not allowed under any circumstances; that all we could do was to hand a driver a fire extinguisher.

Perhaps the conversation on this needs to simply be educating the drivers on what to expect as far as aid from corner workers under the current rules. Maybe we all need to take that new F&C on-line training course.

[Speed Sport Engineering]

I've been preaching for a few years now that if drivers knew workers were no longer allowed to assist a driver then there would be a much larger outcry. I posted something here about it several years ago and it didn't even spark a conversation.

I'm shocked we as drivers accept that we can be on fire, potentially trapped and need to wait until an EV arrives. At some tracks EV's are not even dispatched until the field is stopped via red flag or behind a pace car.

I would gladly pay an increase in entry fee for the insurance cost of allowing corner personnel over the wall to assist. I believe most would like to help, so for god's sake let them please!

[Peter Olivola]

I've been preaching for a few years now that if drivers knew workers were no longer allowed to assist a driver then there would be a much larger outcry. I posted something here about it several years ago and it didn't even spark a conversation.

I'm shocked we as drivers accept that we can be on fire, potentially trapped and need to wait until an EV arrives. At some tracks EV's are not even dispatched until the field is stopped via red flag or behind a pace car.

I would gladly pay an increase in entry fee for the insurance cost of allowing corner personnel over the wall to assist. I believe most would like to help, so for god's sake let them please!

Mike, as long as the tracks put it in the contract, and those that do won't allow it to be negotiated out, we aren't in a position to override it no matter how much extra insurance we buy.