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    Default Nurburgring record broken

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    I think he left 18/100s of a second on the table at Turn 27.

    One impressive thing was because there were no clouds there was massive light differences between the sunny spots and those areas in the shade. 368 Km = 228 mph. Yee Haw.

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    That's Chapparal 2J levels of downforce + monster acceleration.
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    MONSTER acceleration!

    It was amazing, when the car dropped down to speeds in the low 100 KPH how absolutely fast it was back above 275 KPH.. simply amazing. The other thing that surprised me was how much the drivers head was bouncing around. Very little suspension action.

    Timo must have well over 500 laps of the Ring under his belt to drive it like that.
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    What Porsche doesn't want you to see

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    now thats funny,,,,,,,,,,,

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    Wow that was amazing. 1100+ hp is what these cars should have had in the wec. Should be what we have in top flight sports car racing here too, not this watered down junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KodaBear View Post
    Should be what we have in top flight sports car racing here too, not this watered down junk.
    And how long before we have just 1 team left because nobody else can afford it?

    I marvel at the LMP1s. They just motor along like well-oiled industrial machines. Of course I always remember the $ tens of millions it takes to make it look easy. Bring the unlimited 919 to Indy for a 24hr. run. 240mph laps for a day, a tank of gas every hour, new tires every two or three....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalz View Post
    And how long before we have just 1 team left because nobody else can afford it?

    I marvel at the LMP1s. They just motor along like well-oiled industrial machines. Of course I always remember the $ tens of millions it takes to mak,e it look easy. Bring the unlimited 919 to Indy for a 24hr. run. 240mph laps for a day, a tank of gas every hour, new tires every two or three....

    If you have not been watching that only 1 team is what we already have (toyota). During the height of the gtp era the nissans and porsches were up to and exceeding 1000hp in qualifying and we had a lot of cars on the grids. Horsepower alone does not cause the prices to be outragous. That porsche lmp1 is only 4 cylinders with a hybrid boost. A decently sized ice engine could easily reach those same output figures for a lot less money, and the racing would be a lot more interesting... If you build it the fans will come.
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    The best days of sports car endurance racing ( I will get flamed for this) were the 956 / 963 eras. Fast cool to look at and most of all relatively affordable for privateers to run competitively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KodaBear View Post
    During the height of the gtp era the nissans and porsches were up to and exceeding 1000hp in qualifying and we had a lot of cars on the grids.
    ...and GTP collapsed by 1993 with 1 manufacturer left (the violently fast Toyota) and nobody else who wanted to spend with them.

    Horsepower alone does not cause the prices to be outragous. That porsche lmp1 is only 4 cylinders with a hybrid boost. A decently sized ice engine could easily reach those same output figures for a lot less money, and the racing would be a lot more interesting...
    What is your "interesting"? Faster, closer, more exotic? Prototype racing is prototype racing. They're pretty fast now, look pretty good, and race...like prototypes always race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Demeter View Post
    The best days of sports car endurance racing ( I will get flamed for this) were the 956 / 963 eras. Fast cool to look at and most of all relatively affordable for privateers to run competitively.

    And before that, you would have to go back to the 60s Ford-Ferrari duel.

    It strikes me that the particulars of the ruleset are semi-irrelevant when it comes to factory participation. What matters is that the prize (Le Mans, WEC, etc.) has value to the factories. Then you get a golden age of intense competition.

    Sooner or later, one factory is willing to spend more (money, technology, attention) than the others. They win everything and the other factories drop out. Eventually, the winner tires/fulfills their marketing plan/changes priorities and drops out, as well.

    A few years later, the cycle repeats.

    A privateer-based model rewards a reliable source of reasonably-priced machinery with a stable ruleset. That model is still vulnerable. If a semi-privateer is willing to spend enough, or the economy goes south, or the factories jump back in, the privateer model is at risk.

    Bottom line: Nothing lasts forever. Enjoy it while you can.
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