Schumacher Injured in Ski Accident

[Paul LeCain]

But why are they investigating an accident? What is the point?

Senna's death was an accident, too.

That didn't stop the Italian authorities from indicting Williams' team members for manslaughter.

Who knows what will come from this case - inadequate helmet, the camera contributed to the injuries, who knows?

[John Duke]

It's the way they do things in Europe. This is why they investigated Ayrton Senna's accident...in a socailist society someone is to blame and someone must pay...

[RussMcB]

I thought Europe was less sue-happy than us. One reason I formed that opinion was when I went for a trip over there and was allowed to ride around Donnington in some guy's club race car after paying 20 lb. and putting on a helmet. I was wearing a sweater and jeans and was surprised to be flying around a gran prix track at speed. Kept thinking: You'd never see this in America...

Maybe they think the video can show them something that will either help them understand his injuries, and/or help prevent future similar accidents.

[reidhazelton]

I thought Europe was less sue-happy than us. One reason I formed that opinion was when I went for a trip over there and was allowed to ride around Donnington in some guy's club race car after paying 20 lb. and putting on a helmet. I was wearing a sweater and jeans and was surprised to be flying around a gran prix track at speed. Kept thinking: You'd never see this in America...

Maybe they think the video can show them something that will either help them understand his injuries, and/or help prevent future similar accidents.

Yup. Much less. You can still pay 25 Euro and go out on the Nurburgring in a bus, motorcycle, limo, or Ferrari. Think you can do that at Watkins Glen?

Maybe they just want to prevent a death? Or, they want to make sure this is addressed and does not affect the tourism income.

[DB4 Tim]

Just do not get why the police are involved

Just saw on the news that Schumachers family just turned over the camera that Michael had on his helmet at the time of the accident to the police for their ongoing investigation.

[racerdad2]

Perhaps the police investigate all serious injuries & deaths to determine if the accidents are indeed just accidents or, are there nefarious motives, risky / negligent actions by others or of the person injured, faulty equipment, etc. Similar to how our NTSB investigates all plane crashes ? Determining who or what is at fault will need to be addressed. Lawsuits, insurance claims & financial responsibility may all come into play.... A thorough investigation & an accurate account of this accident is in order. IMHO... In the meantime, we continue to hope for Michael's recovery.

[Matt King]

But why are they investigating an accident? What is the point?

Ya think maybe a week's worth of 24-hour-a-day international news coverage involving an well-known celebrity might have anything to do with it?

[Offcamber1]

Just do not get why the police are involved

Exactly, don't they have anything better to do than harassing the Schumacher family for a personal video? Like maybe solving a crime or something?

[rickb99]

.....Perhaps the police investigate all serious injuries & deaths to determine if the accidents are indeed just accidents....

Yep. Although less litigious then the USA they are far more likely to fill criminal charges in wrongful death incidents. That's why the police investigate all racing deaths in Formula One on down.

A skiing or mountain climbing accident is no different.

[dalz]

It's the way they do things in Europe. This is why they investigated Ayrton Senna's accident...in a socailist society someone is to blame and someone must pay...

If you ever read Jackie Stewart's book...after Jochen Rindt's fatal accident at Monza, he ran into Colin Chapman at the airport...tried to give him emotional heartfelt condolences, but Chapman just about knocked him over trying to get on a plane out of Italy before he got collared by police....

[DB4 Tim]

It was very long and drawn out after Aryton's death

If you ever read Jackie Stewart's book...after Jochen Rindt's fatal accident at Monza, he ran into Colin Chapman at the airport...tried to give him emotional heartfelt condolences, but Chapman just about knocked him over trying to get on a plane out of Italy before he got collared by police....

[John Duke]

Yep. Although less litigious then the USA they are far more likely to fill criminal charges in wrongful death incidents. That's why the police investigate all racing deaths in Formula One on down.

A skiing or mountain climbing accident is no different.

Thank you. Precisely my point.

Less freedom=more criminal acts (it simply cannot be the fault of the nanny state nor will they be seen doing nothing when individuals exercise acts of free will)

[racerdad2]

Aaah, yes. Socialism.... Michael & his family are not free individuals. They are government property. The government is simply investigating damages done to public property (Michael). After all, they risk losing a rather large income stream. Is that what we've all become ? State property ? Apparently...

Perhaps this is the real reason behind the declining numbers in racing. Collectivism vs Individualism.

Here's to Michael's recovery. For his own sake and that of his family & friends. We are praying for You, Michael.

[Lynn]

France, Italy and most Spanish speaking countries (and some others) legal systems are based on the Napoleonic code. English speaking countries have legal systems based on English common law. The two systems are very different. Every incident involving death or serous injury in the Napoleonic code countries are treated as criminal cases are are vigorously investigated. The criminal courts in those countries somewhat takes some of the functions of out civil tort system. At least, that is what I may or may not remember correctly from a business law class taken 43 years ago.

[Jim Garry]

Napoleon was a socialist?

[reidhazelton]

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...id=msnhp&pos=4

Man, Germans should stay off the slopes.

[Jnovak]

Napoleon was a socialist?

Of course, Napoleon is responsible for the total decline of individual freedom in Europe and possibly everywhere else.

Seriously, why do these countries keep electing socialists to run the government?

[allof6]

Of course, Napoleon is responsible for the total decline of individual freedom in Europe and possibly everywhere else.

Seriously, why do these countries keep electing socialists to run the government?

For the same reason we keep (re) electing the idiots in charge of our country!

[Jnovak]

For the same reason we keep (re) electing the idiots in charge of our country!

And that REASON is?

[reidhazelton]

And that REASON is?

"Corporations are people too"

[Jnovak]

"Corporations are people too"

Reid, are you intimating that the corporations own the government? That would mean they must be paying the politicians in some way shape or form, other than the taxes they pay.

[mousecatcher]

Reid, are you intimating that the corporations own the government? That would mean they must be paying the politicians in some way shape or form, other than the taxes they pay.

Well they are. This fact is well established.

BTW, "they" are "us". Corporations, like the government, aren't separate from us. For better or worse we have a government of the people.

It's like when people complain about SPEED tv going by the wayside with billy bob shows and what not. It's not SPEED's fault they don't have the viewership to maintain their valiant ideals. My understanding from my short and shallow interaction with some of those folks is that they all hate NASCAR with a passion.

Congress today has the lowest approval rating in history. It's below 20% isn't it? We literally spent billions thanks to the recent government shutdown, for no purpose whatsoever. Yet most of those folks will be re-elected. It's pretty clear what's going on here.

[Wren]

This thread has taken a bizarre turn

[reidhazelton]

we have a government of the people.

We do?

[reidhazelton]

This thread has taken a bizarre turn

It's -23*, I must be suffering hypothermia induced delirium.

[Jon Jeffords]

Reid, are you intimating that the corporations own the government?

Lock, stock, and barrel. Two words: campaign contributions. The politicians stand before the lobbiests with both empty hands outstretched: in their left hand you place the campaign contribution, in their right hand you place the legislation you want passed or repealed. As Nancy said: "We need to pass this bill so we can see what's in it."

I respect the moderator's wishes to keep political topics off this site, so I suggest you go here for the root cause of this mess that we the sheeple have allowed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcqb9hHQ3E

[reidhazelton]

This thread has taken a bizarre turn

Is this better?

http://www.wimp.com/dogbeds/

[reidhazelton]

This thread has taken a bizarre turn

Or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d7aruKYkKs

Poor Waffles.....

[racerdad2]

Y'all crack me up Nothing like a few good laughs to help one wade thru the mess I call my garage I may even get the car in here today !

[Doug Fisher]

Judging by the way things are run in my neck of the woods and given the hypothesis that the government is owned by big business..I would suspect that the government here is owned by the same company that makes 'shamwow'.

[Jnovak]

Lock, stock, and barrel. Two words: campaign contributions. The politicians stand before the lobbiests with both empty hands outstretched: in their left hand you place the campaign contribution, in their right hand you place the legislation you want passed or repealed. As Nancy said: "We need to pass this bill so we can see what's in it."

I respect the moderator's wishes to keep political topics off this site, so I suggest you go here for the root cause of this mess that we the sheeple have allowed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcqb9hHQ3E

Wow, I just can't believe it. I always thought our votes were more important than their $$. What a dummy.

[dc]

Any new updates on Michale's status can be started in a new thread... this one has lost it's way.