First Sub-2:30 Ford lap was the late great Bertil Roos in a Lola 440, ran a 2:29 and changeQuote:
Originally Posted by E1pix
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First Sub-2:30 Ford lap was the late great Bertil Roos in a Lola 440, ran a 2:29 and changeQuote:
Originally Posted by E1pix
Love the small world stuff...
T, I seem to recall the Roos lap as I was a huge fan of his. Not sure where my memory of :28 comes from and now wonder if 1:28 was a good FF time at Road Atlanta, not 2:28 at RA... but may be wrong there, too.
By the way, I was Oconomowoc Class of ‘78! A lifelong best friend lives near Ski Slide and Lange — and knows you...
After seeing this thread I had to dig out some old programs and results. In 1980 Gary Hackbarth Lola 540 had the pole at 2:30.34 with Craig Taylor's Tiga next a second and a half back. I don't think times got below 2:30 for several more years.
OK, like FUBAR, i had to dig up my old records and see what i could add.
1982 June Sprints, 2:30.61, Danny Edwards, Lola 640
1982 August Nat'l, 2:25.352, Steve Ice, Lola 640 -this was the big timing kerfuffle! I was 7th in my Tiga at a 2:28! no way!
1983 August Nat'l, 2:28.93, Justin Revene, Reynard (unfortunately no sprints data that year)
1984 June Sprints, 2:29.03, John Decker, Swift
1985 June Sprints, 2:27.98, John Decker, Swift
1985 August Nat'l, 2:28.3, EJ Lenzi, Swift
1986 June Sprints,2:29.44, Dave Weitzenhof, Citation
1986 August Nat'l, 2:28.1, Ken Clark, Reynard
1987 June Sprints, 2:31.19, Lewis Copper, Swift (Dave W won the race with a 2:30.3 fastest lap)
1987 August Nat'l, 2:30.03, Craig Taylor, Swift
1988 June Sprints, 2:27.89, Jim Render, Swift (I was 4th at 2:28.7 in my Swift, tight field!)
regards,
Fletch
Appreciate the efforts, Guys!
Fletch’s numbers really illustrate my threadswaying point about chassis development slowing since the ‘70s.
Aside, if anyone has a nice photo of any of Danny Edwards’ cars over the years, I’d pay to have them. I was his sign painter over the entirety of his career in FF, but never scanned my own photos and am on the road now.
Thanks for the dialog. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Thanks Fletch for your updates. Somewhere buried in a storage unit down the road I have records dating back to our Tiga '79-on era and even some Crossle results from the 70's. I happened to have the '80 grid sheet stuck in one of my old Sprints programs. I remember the famous "fast" clock from August '82 which recorded the Ice time that held up for many years. There was another fast clock later on crediting the first 2:24/ 100 mph lap to a seventies model Van Diemen. No disrespect to the driver as he even admitted it never happened. The only other results sheets I have at hand now date from when Render and I got our first DB-1 in '87 (still for sale by the way).
Obviously the onset of the Swift era saw a marked jump in FF lap times. This was followed by improvements in bias tire technology culminating in the soft Hoosier compounds. The spec radials resulted in slightly slower speeds but damper (shock) improvements now allow running over curbs and through bumps to a degree we never thought possible as I watch more recent in-car videos.
PS- I may somewhere have a shot of the Danny Edwards "Ping" Lola 640 but that's probably in storage also
Appreciate the thought, Fubar, no pressure obviously.
I think the Ping sponsorship came through in ‘82, the ‘80 T540 was two-tone brown with oil sponsorship, same car in ‘81 was blue with red, then the Ping T640 cars in white.
Danny was a far-better driver than most drivers are golfers — and a genuinely nice guy. Had a temper though, most-famously pitching his entire bag into a pond at Pebble Beach once. But anyone who golfs seriously knows and relates to that temptation. ;)
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Originally Posted by E1pix
Ya I'm on Ski Slide, think thats a bud of mine from a while back
Hey Fletcher,Quote:
Originally Posted by fletch
Think that Steve Ice lap was done the weekend the clocks didn't work so they took Ice's own stopwatches (his dad I think) times (nod nod, wink wink) Ya , he did a .25 in a 640, ok sure.
Well that "apparently" was the record they followed for a while.
When I ran my first Sprints in 79 (or 80, can't remember), Bertl Roo's .29 record was in the program or the time sheets, as was the car brand and model. I was crewing for Dean Lundgreens B39 Chevron Formula-B (Atlantic) at the same time and I pointed that time out to him and asked who he was, he said "have you ever seen Bertil Roos drive?". When I finally did a few years later I guess I understood how he could have gotten that lap. Was told it was in some sort of Pro Ford race.
Anyway that's what I remember.
See you at the Vintage races
Tony Brzezicki
Tony, Marc Harris says Hello. Just after Labor Day we’ll have been hanging out 50 years. Thanks.
I remember Dean and likely have photos of him... but alas, deep in storage and on a scanning sabbatical. If in touch, ask him if he remembers the Milwaukee Region reporter kid in mid-to-late ‘70s turned sign painter at the Sprints from ‘77 through ‘81 (and Runoffs 1979 through ‘85). All Region members and Runoffs competitors from ‘75 got my Eric’s Race Reports in the mail.
Thanks for shrinking the globe.
Apologies for the diversion to the rest o’ Yas.
https://www.apexspeed.com/forums/att...d=100940&stc=1Quote:
Originally Posted by fletch
I am wondering if you would be so kind as to share the results sheets from those races. In particular, I am looking for the sheets that have the HP races. I am restoring the Ray Yergler car that won the June Sprints, August Nat'l, Runoffs...Thank you.
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I am wondering if you would be so kind as to share the results sheets from those races. In particular, I am looking for the sheets that have the HP races. I am restoring the Ray Yergler car that won the June Sprints, August Nat'l, Runoffs...Thank you.
Did you post Yergler request over on prodracing.com? May have better "effect" than apex. Also could try to contact Ray, he may have a copy.
Okie
Anyone have the 1992 June Sprints results for Formula Ford?
Sorry but I only have grid: Top ten: Hancock, Wiedner, Kester, Sauce, May, Dalrymple (with one sec penalty), Hohnecker, Binetti, Madeson, Render. I think Dalrymple won but results delayed due to protest which was disallowed but delayed official results.Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Sauce
Tony Kester won and I was second but I lowered the track record to 2:25:20. Don't remember any protest or disqualification Tony was 1st and I was second on track.
Sorry I must have been thinking of another Sprints. I do remember Dalrymple won a Sprints. Congrats and a great fast lap! Don't know why I just have the grid and not results
Tom Dalrymple won in 1995 in my old DB1.I had moved to FA by then.He was torn down in impound and found legal. Ivey Motors fast and legal.
In 96 Jon Horgas lowered the track record. Mike I'm not sure if you still held it until then.