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Hatheway,
When I bought that car in '98 the guy sent me pictures of a black car with gold pinstriping. So.... I drove all the way to Wisconsin. By the time I got to Wisconsin it had become yellow and red. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Good to hear it is back to where it was.
Its gonna be titght,the hot rod is in primer and the difuser we subed out to supertech products hasent been shiped yet? But dont get your hopes up we will be there[all :D 36 of us].
Everyone meet Russ,very nice guy with one bad FA its an old super vee.This car is so clean I would be afraid to eat off of it the car might get dirty.And he lives 2 mi. from my shop,small planet aint it?
Mike I hated to paint over the purple but there can only be one purple rocket in the line up.
OK what is the talk of a 88 VD runing at RA?
Who will be the pilot and what shop dose it race out of?
Lets try to pit down near the fence on the first row at RA so our spoters can stand on the deck and still be near the the trailers.
See Yall Mark H
You'll have to ask RacerJon1 and Chuck Cecil about any '88 VDs out of Columbia SC. Fastest CFC in the nation when it was put in mothballs years ago.
The deadline for entries is tomorrow. If the entry count for Groups 1 and 7 continue to be low, I wish they would merge them into one Group 1. That way we could be done racing on Saturday, instead of dark-thirty on Sunday. GR could start his 14 hour haul sooner, and we could seriously party Saturday night. Whats a few FVs and F500 mixed in with FAs... all one big open wheel family.
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Welllll.....
It appears we are picking up some steam here with all of the CFC cars coming out of the wood sheds and barns and getting back on tracks :D
That is great.
Frog (and I don't really know who else [img]redface.gif[/img] ) are to be congratulated for doing such a fine job in keeping this class alive, at least in the SE!!
The only problem I see, Mark, Montfort.... is that it sounds like these cars were tops when previously running, and now the pressure is on us to step up to the challange :eek:
I have already ordered from ACME my Super Dimensional Time-Shift Arbiton Ray Gun to use in my defense when I see these things :D I am also looking into what may be left-over from the old Bond days, and what "Q" may have available on the black market for me as well (I hear he retired and the Queen's Secret Service is having an inventory shortage issue and are missing some of those gadgets)
Do the fine folks at RA know what's coming in??
Or should I be asking, will we ever be allowed back on the property once this group complete their mission?? ;)
Oh my garsh, and Daytona and the track Gestapo are next.
How much Bond money are you guys bringing?? :D
Can Richard save us in Florida???
Peace
wow, all this pressure.
first rumors, then talk of "what shop i am from" and then how the car was fast. Oh well, i guess we will just have to see.
One thing that worries me is there hasn't been an update on the entry list on this site, and the entry got sent in a week ago..so i hope it made it.
Jon K
www.racerjon.com
Jon, just tell us that it is NOT the "Sanford and Son" Club Ford special that you campaigned in '99. [img]smile.gif[/img]
The rest of the FC country doesn't think we CFCers are bonkers, they know it. Two pages of posts about 6 six old men and 2 kids showing up to race a measley single regional with race technology that is two decades old. And the damn little race is still two weeks away. You would think it was the damn Runoffs or something...
Of course it is being run on what may be the finest racing circuit in America.
Is it the hype? or just the partying?
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Well, you can add a FC chasing after all the CFC crew. Yes, it is true I will be making the trip down from Charlotte with my RF 94 to do my final novice race. Is the SuperTech team camping?
Justin
Partying?? What partying??? I am bringing simple marshmallows for a campfire (and the Mazolla for the shower curtain)
;)
Peace
Looking back at my earlier post. I meant to ask if Doug can save us in Georgia. Do badges cross state lines??
Richard (Mr. Aiken) can act as our attorney, if Doug doesn't keep us out of the hoosgow, and Montfort can keep those jet engines whinning at the local airport for the get away :D
I blame this all on Frog and that damn purple hair! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Peace
2 pages of posts for a single regional...wait till the ARRC.
Club Ford....Never had one. I do own a 1983 Van Diemen Formula Ford, (too new for Club) i ran it from 1998-01. Sanford And Son, just the motor. i bought it, ran it 20 weekends then rebuilt it...ran it one weekend, spun the berrings in 8 laps. starved myself, sat in front of Wal-Mart ringing a bell,(boy you get weird looks doing that in June) saved my pennies, and rebuilt it. I took it to VIR last year...4 laps, spun the berrings.
$4500 for about 15 min of track time. :(
So here i am back on my feet a little, and needing something to run on a regular basis while i look for pro sponsorship. So i figured CFC, a little downforce, a little HP, and a really good group of guys who have about the same crash budget i do. ($0.00)
Enter Chuck Cecil's 1988 Van Diemen Formula Continental. i go out, find a cheap engine, and bring the car out of the storage container it was in, replace all the rubber stuff, lots of little things, and its almost ready. If i can Talk Frog out of some of his take offs, i might even afford to put tires on the thing.
Right off i have to thank Chuck, without his help i wouldn't have been able to do this, and there are some others out there i will thank for their help. (you know who you are)
So now the cats out of the bag...lets go to Atlanta. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Jon K
www.racerjon.com
A few of you have refernced the event entries. Is there some place on the Internet where that is posted? Where?
Thanks in advance.
Russ
It’s official. Top will not be at RA as the newbie to take BS notes at the drivers meeting for you guys. I found a few miles of runways that we can use for a couple of hours on the 27th so that we can play with Marshall and Richards former Swift. My lovely wife is flying in from NYC so she can drive the car for the first time. She halfheartedly claims she’s taking the weekend off because it’s our 17 anniversary but I know the car is the real reason. My wife is excited about spending her anniversary driving a CFC. Did I get the perfect wife or what?
Runway's???
That almost sounds like more fun!!
Hmmm. No entry fees, no stewards, make up your own course, sessions as long as you like, grid/ paddock/pits all in the same place.
We could make it an all CFC field and run our own event :D :D
Where do we sign up?? ;)
Enjoy the time with your wife and the car. I'm sure we will see you in the future.
(whew..... one less CFC I have to worry about)
Ooops! Did I type that out loud??? ;)
Peace
Russ,
I don't know of a place where one can view who has entered a given race. We deal only with "insider information". The "big guy" leaks entry info out as he gathers it from his "sources".
My guess is that after lunch on Thursday we will be getting a new count.
Jon,
I thought it was you that was spotted in the Hoosier pile after the Saturday evening social at Roebling. I thought you had all the takeoffs. By the time I got to it there weren't any FC tires. Although the Gelles paddock compound did look like an AVON tire dealership.
It's good to have you on board. And this is meant to be a compliment... you are just strange enough to qualify for CFC. Don't you need to keep the cast on until August 1st? OBTW, Don't believe everything Chuck says. [img]smile.gif[/img] ;) T1 is not flat in fourth... unless your 4th is a 22/29. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Justin,
We are a non-restrictive party group. FCs are especially welcome (afterall, they have parts we can "borrow"). I think Dobson is even coming down I-85 with his FC. And you being a newbie, we can tell you all kinds of lies. e.g. T1 is flat in fourth, never lift.
There was a rumor that if CFC got any bigger I would switch to FC just to get a top 5 finish. Not true. That rumor was about Montfort. [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm going to the DSR site to see if I can find bodywork to switch my car to S2...
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There is a plan to enhance the on-line registration system to provide reporting capabilities, but that has not be implemented as yet. As your trusty Atlanta Region SARRC Representative, Treasurer and Crew Chief for Purple Frog Racing, however, I DO have inside information.
Current Group 7 entries as of 0800 this morning (by member # within class):
FA - McBride
FC - Poma, Dobson, Smith
FM - Garner, Arnold
CSR - Klebeck (NOT a Blunder Roadster)
DSR - Rosmanitz, Stafford
S2 - Doles, Scott
CFC - Jewett, Dowis, Krolewicz, Reidler, Eakin, Eichler, Matthews, Monfort, Hatheway
Almost half the group made up of CFC.
Damned amazing!!!
BTW - Group 1 (the wingless guys) have 10 entries (4 CF, 1 FF, 5 FV, 0 F500), so it's marginal whether or not the two groups will be combined.
Eichler? We suspected Jon was sneaking in at the last minute... but Eichler? Is he that undercover IRS investigator trying to uncover the underground market on old Reynard parts?
You know... 30 cars on Road Atlanta would not be too crowded. And think how much less damage to the track facilities if they let us leave Saturday night. [img]smile.gif[/img] We will promise not to hit any Vees. I still vote that they merge Groups one and seven into Group 1. (I bet Joe has a different view. [img]smile.gif[/img] )
They could do a split start. Only problem is that the CFs would come up and mess up our race by about lap 10. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Any Ducks entered? Or is he monoposting with Brian Redman?
Nine CFCs in one event may be a SE Div record. (And we have Ritter and Top waiting in the wings.)
Have that many 9 cycle tires ever been out on any one given session? Another possible record.
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And just think, two years ago they were talking about shutting down the CFC's in the southeast.
Hey,
Where is everyone staying??? Frog told me about this little place in Connecticut, but I'm thinkin' that may be just a little bit out of the way [img]tongue.gif[/img]
I hope to be near the track sometime late Thursday afternoon, early evening. If anyone else is making reservations, let me know where. Maybe we can take over a hotel/motel or something too!!
Peace
Eichler (Oran) could well be a mis-key - doesn't he usually run CF or FV?
No Ducks in sight as yet.
Combining the groups is definitely a discussion for the Stewards. Race chairman is Ken Irwin with assistance from Toni Creighton and Rick Mitchell. SOM's are Al Malone, Bob Kirkland and Vern Jared. I'm not sure how it all works, but I know it is NOT the decision of the hosting region once the Supps have been published.
I agree that 30 cars are not too many for one race group. The biggest complaint from the Vees in the past has been the closing rate with National level FA's. No offense, Russ, but that is not the case here.
See ya...
Yes, i was digging through the pile on Saturday, although i had already got a set on Friday, there wasn't much there on Sat.
Oran runs FF in a Blue mid 80s Vand Diemen.
The cast..nope all out of that one (sorry) I wont be sitting on any 4 Wheelers anymore.
Flat through turn 1...done it. Ok it was in a FF not exactly known for its straight line speed, but i still did it. will I try it again...#$%& NO!
I turned in a little early to compensate for the Push the car had, then as it started to push Ioing that, i will talk to him tonight, unwound the wheel just a hair and the back end started to take a look outside of me...so i gently corrected and as it came back i rememberd Randy Pobst telling me "make sure you yank that wheel back when it gets sideways or else you shoot off in the other direction. (yes Randy was giving me a little coaching that day) So i jerked the wheel back and held my breath (and all kinds of other stuff i wont mention here) and the car finished up its slide somewhere on the exit rumble strips. How did i not crash, i dont know.
Jon K
www.racerjon.com
The guy with the great big loud car wrote:
"I agree that 30 cars are not too many for one race group. The biggest complaint from the Vees in the past has been the closing rate with National level FA's. No offense, Russ, but that is not the case here."
Agreed. Larry Conner's got nothing to worry about. It'll be the first race for me and the car in a year. I'll be leaving lots of room between me and others, just trying to have fun and stay out of trouble.
It is now reality! Team SuperTech will be Back in Black. We finished up shooting paint way too late last night (my wife said I got home from Mark's at 1:30 but she says that a lot) and I can't remember how it turned out. Overspray from either the gun or opening beer cans must have got in my eyes.
I've been putting the hard sell on some potential sponsors but they keep mentioning something about a winning record. I got to come up with a good spin for that one. That reminds me, Mark, don't spin anything, OK?
Plus, there's a new canopy to keep us as cool as we're gonna look. Just kidding! I don't think there will be anything keeping cool on the asphalt at RA in late July. Maybe I'll bring a baby pool to sit in ;)
Is anybody else going to Practice Day? We'll be there testing the newly designed aero package. By using the latest in BFPM technology we hope for improved results compared to that produced with the gov't surplus JATO/Michelob rocket unveiled at Lowe's. In hindsight, maybe Cuevo would have been a better choice.
Justin, I don't think any of Team SuperTech will be camping at RA. Of course, that will depend on whether we get bumped into Group 2 or not. It's almost an hour from where we all live to the track, so Mark may want to camp. Camping can be very enjoyable and relaxing experience if done right with at least some of the creature comforts we have all grown accustomed to. My idea of camping is staying at my friend's house on Lake Lanier, 10 mins. from the track.
I think we should try to pit together in a show of force and certifiable commitment to this money pit we call a sport. We should show SEDiv that open wheel racing is back in strength and nothing short of police dogs and stun guns will cause us to stray our course. Add free beer to that list as well.
On behalf of myself and Team SuperTech we are looking forward seeing all you guys at RA and as always there will be plenty of free, cold refreshments in our pit*.
Tom
* - Availability may be limited, does not include all applicable fees and taxes, batteries not included.
Changes/additions to the entry list:
- Eichler has been moved to FF (from CFC) as suspected
- Frost has been added to DSR
- Cecil has been added to FC (looking for the overall, Chuck?)
- Garner & Abbott added in FM
- Dole moved from S2 to ??
Current counts:
Group 7: 8 CFC, 1 CSR, 3 DSR, 1 FA, 3 FC, 4 FM, 1 S2 = 21 on my calculator
Group 2: 3 CF, 2 FF, 5 FV = still stuck at 10
See ya...
Marietta GA, now the unofficial amatuer open wheel capitol in the US!
Hey Ritter, How was the operation? I heard you had the classic CFC surgery.....removal of the "chicken bone." Amazing how we swallow one and it moves down to the right foot! Hurry and get the car ready, I can't wait to hear how it goes......only beef and pork for two weeks prior to the first weekend, okay? lol!
your friend in AZ
I think Marietta, GA is the base for a lot of CFC teams because it is close to the Lockheed Martin wind tunnels. I tried to book time there recently, but Team SuperTech has been monopolizing it lately. Maybe I can find another airport to test.
I will share with yall only that our SF-84 had more lift than the F-22 we were using the wind tunnel with! ;)
Mark H
Questions re: Road Atlanta this weekend:
Is it safe for me to assume that the track gas passes SCCA's fuel tests easily?
Team Supertech, when does your big rig plan to pull out of Marietta for the test day?
The leaded Sunoco at the track should pass.
But... we have not had a fuel test in a year. Of course, the SOMs are reading this thread, so this time we will have one. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Russ,
The track is open from 7 - 5 on Friday. We will leave Mark's house at about 6 or shortly thereafter. I called RA and they are scheduled for 3 groups, each given four 30 min sessions. If you get there later and run less than four sessions they knock of $50 per session. I will call today to clarify and find out when the first session starts. I'll keep you posted.
Russ,
I have a copy of the schedule for Practice Day on Friday. Give me your fax # and I'll send you a copy. That goes for anyone else planing to go.
Tom,
Would you send me a copy of the friday test day Schedule?
Fax #: 803/765-0409
Thanks,
Jon K
racerjon1,
You should have received the fax. They changed from four 30min sessions to five 20min sessions. I don't know if the $50 deal I mentioned is still valid.
When do plan to get there? We should try to pit together as it helps when unloading cars, setting up canopies, etc.
I thought it was in the CFC rules that you couldn't test at a track where you were going to race. ;)
Testing? I thought that was what we did the first two laps of the qualifying session.
You guys are driving up the cost of CFC. Next thing you know enclosed trailers will be allowed, then spare motors, spare wheels, and even, heaven forbid, new tires. Then there will be sponsors needed to afford the escalating costs... then young pro drivers will follow the sponsors in.
Careful with all that testing. If you run 4 test sessions on Friday, there won't be anything left on Sunday... and I'm just talking about the drivers. Those old CFC cars will be worn out by mid-day Saturday. A good CFC car will last the whole season if you only do 3 laps in qualifying and then the race. Any more than that and you are running the danger of wearing everything out.
Tom,
I would like to see the Friday Schedule as well. Please fax it to : 954.331.4794
Tx
Peace
GR
i will be leaving Columbia SC early friday morning. As far as pitting together, i like th idea, but i will be attempting to get a spot for Chuck Cecil (67 feet tip to tip)And will be runing out of his trailor this weekend. (after all it is his car)
No test day at the track we will race at in CFC rules, i guess i will have to go rent Roebling Road. <grin> (actually I heard Formula Cars East has it rented this week, which i did think about begging a few sessions out of)
Sponsors: I already got one (Insurall 1-800 ITSmart)
Wel, time to go install a fuel tap and transponder.
Jon K
Russ,
Judging by the schedule for Friday we will be leaving for the track about 7 instead of 6. We still have to string the car and will be out there tonight so call or stop by.
Tom,
Got the schedule tx.
Boy that G.R. person is really nice ;)
Peace
Yes sportsfans, it's the Wednesday before another CFC race in the SARRC Championship series!
Time for the Purple Frog prerace comments...
Road Atlanta is welcoming the CFC contingent with open arms this coming weekend and only a few rules added to keep down the riotous behavior. You can't enter the facilities with dogs, or alcohol. Guns are another matter.
Who will the throngs of CFC groupies be leaning over the rails to catch a glance of this weekend?
First off, not Marshall Aiken, he has taken his 2001 Championship and bankrolled it into a Zetec pro ride. And not his famous red Swift that his father has scored so many points with this season, they sold that ride. Thus putting Richard Aiken out of the hunt this season. Rumor is that Richard is going to try to make it to the SIC in the FC class, driving Marshall's "old" '01 VD started next week at Daytona. So... the two drivers the female fans most want to see will not be there. To offset this development and help ticket sales, it is rumored Don P. is asking Paul N. to do a one time CFC gig this weekend in car number 77, rumored to be a rare '90 VD.
Points leader Richard Matthews will be there with his top notch team. Just when Richard turns 21, Road Atlanta rules you can't bring in booze. Is there no justice in life? Matthews should be the odds on favorite. Great car, fast driver, hardest worker, most focused. I think Chip or Roger would notice him quicker though if he did the spiked bleach blonde hair deal, a la Tracy.
We are in the second half of the season. Those that have been tuning in the last two years already know that Court Dowis is "Mr. 4th Quarter". The 2000 CFC champ has his sights set on a strong run to the SIC. One more win, makes him a contender. And he has plans on doing 4 races before the SIC in his red Reynard. He is counting points seriously.
The new ringer in the mix has ventured down from his LMP900 ride to pilot none other than Chuck Cecils '88 VD... Jon Kski. RacerJon1 can drive. How soon can the mothballed VD be ready? I think by the end of the Friday test day you will see people going to the betting windows to change their bets. Jon is being backed up by Chuck's complete luxurious paddock assemblage, quite impressive.
Glennon Riedler, our very own G.R. is bringing the Hard Rock Motorsports Team all the way from South Florida. With a map of the course taped on his Reynard dash, he will be doing the test day. He hopes to be really competitive "between the Jersey barriers" by the double weekend on Labor day. The boy must be serious to make a 14 hour haul. His team reports their plan is to use this year to learn the SEDIV courses and next year to make a serious assault at the title.
Michael Montfort has been laying low, staying quite. We all thought it was because he was one of the pilots arrested for FUI, and that was the reason for the silence. Ahhh, but he was not caught, he was only out shopping for sticker tires for his Reynard. Michael plans on doing Road Atlanta this weekend, and the "Big D" next weekend. He is comfortable now that he has a lot more laps on his home track. What other secrets does he have in store? It's doesn't bode well when he is quite.
Mark Hatheway and the Supertech Team have been real busy during the mid-term break. The ex-Frog's '84 Reynard has been put on a serious diet, and is coming back in black, paint that is. New paint, better wings, real tires... Mark is even doing the test day to adjust to all the changes. And sportfans, if it rains... change your bets, that Reynard is a mudder. The Supertech Team has started applying the Matthews work ethic to their regime, they should be moving up.
Doug Jewett is looking to turn his 2002 bad luck streak around at Atlanta. In the March "Noah's Ark Regional" Doug almost drown. Then a broke upright ruined his day at Roebling Road in April. Repairs have been made and he is back having never lost that infectous smile. His yellow Swift should be right in the mix of things this weekend.
Latest reports say that Mike Eakin is also coming to the party, mainly for the party. That makes 8 CFCs. He reported that he was just starting to feel comfortable in the new (to him) '88 Reynard at the Memorial Day double at CMP. We wouldn't find out how comfortable, because his cam shaft snapped just as he was scrubbing in his 9 session tires. But repairs have been made, and he should sneak into the track late friday night. He has yet to drive this world famous course in the new ride, so he opted to skip the test day, so as to not scare himself before qualifying.
That's the field. You all know the fame of the track. And the weather could be favorable, with an strong emphasis on "could". There are a couple of FCs in the field to show the way, and a couple of FMs to get in the way. It should be a real barnburner, at least Saturday night when all these guys go into downtown Oakwood to party it up.
Stay tuned to this site for the best in CFC coverage. It's worldwide, it's F2000.com!
While the Frog is certainly entertaining, his rantings about Road Atlanta outlawing adult beverages only demonstrate that he's finally had someone read the Supps to him. The track has "officially" not allowed beer for the past two years (Hall County ordinance), but as anyone who had been there can tell you, that rule is enforced even less than the 55 mph speed limit on I-285.
The car count for Group 2 is now 12 (4 CF's, 2 FF's, 6 FV's), so I doubt the Stewards will combine the two groups. We've also added 3 more CSR's (don't know if any are Blunder Roadsters), 1 more DSR and (I think) another FM. But then these are only pre-registration numbers anyway. Who actually shows up is the real story.
Let the party begin...
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