Hans group purchase

It seems to me if you guys can get a deal on a part you were going to buy anyway, then by all means you should. And get the best deal you can get. If club racers have been surviving this long without the Hans device then they can probably survive long enough for this deal to go through.

Regarding the deal, is it possible to deal directly with
Hubbard/Downing and perhaps save a few more bucks?

Also, many have indicated they do not want the quick disconnect hardware. Why would one want/need it? Why wouldn't one want/need it?

Thanks.

My supplier has 10 medium 30 degrees's in stock ready to ship at $949.00 and can get the other 10 quickly.

Install is free with factory trained installers

Return shipping is free if you send them your helmet

If you do the install yourself, shipping is free

Any Items you add to the purchase like quick releases etc. I would think would also get a break on price, but may not.

What I want to do when everyone decides to pull the trigger is to get a list of everyone that wants one at the $949.00 price and send it to the supplier. You can all call individually, and the supplier will know to be waiting for everyones call. This way those of you who want to use a credit card can, or you can send them a check. it is one salesman that has put the number together with his boss. All you have to do is call him.

Most important is the fact we have at least 20 people who agree to this to get that price.

Like I told a couple of you on the board. I get nothing out of this. I am not even ordering a Hans. Not in the budget right now, and hoping Santa will bring me one. The only reason I jumped in on this was to try to help everyone here out on this deal. I am not in this for myself, just you guys.

I am game also. Depending on discount.

Thanks for your support & "words O wisdom"
No sarcaisum intended

Jamie,
I appreciate you,Sean, and Stan working on this deal. I don't know if your ready for "the list" or not. I have until spring! But I'm a definite. As posted earlier: regular 30 medium.
thanks,
Steve

Find the old thread from 12-18 (?) months ago on this site. HANS offered about a 7% discount for 60+ units, IIRC.

[size=1]Ok. Here is the best deal Hubbard Downing came up with:[/size]


[size=1]"Sean, after some discussion I cannot offer you any lower price on the devices as this would undercut our dealers. Instead I offer the following:[/size]

[size=1]With each order, HANS Performance Products will include one free set of additional helmet anchors in any color (for a second helmet, value $65), plus one free HANS Helmet and Device carrying bag (value $85), as well as colored padding ($20 value). This is a total value of $170 in free accessories with each device. I will also ship by UPS ground at our expense providing all devices go to one location."[/size]

[size=1]SO, I believe Jamie's offer of $949.00 w/ free install & shipping may be the best we can find. [/size]
[size=1]I've got the following names:[/size]

[size=1]From Apex speed: [/size]

[size=1]Sean O'Connell[/size]
[size=1]Stan Hallock[/size]
[size=1]Lee Shumosic[/size]
[size=1]FW Schroeder[/size]
[size=1]Keith Carter (maybe)[/size]
[size=1]LenFC11 (maybe)[/size]
[size=1]Westroc (Jim)[/size]
[size=1]B Herscher[/size]
[size=1]Greg Pizzo[/size]
[size=1]Cal Trumbo[/size]
[size=1]Gary Guzman[/size]
[size=1]Christopher Shoemaker[/size]
[size=1]Christian Morici[/size]
[size=1]"Bill"[/size]
[size=1]Race 95[/size]
[size=1]Gary Payne[/size]
[size=1]Jim Krispin[/size]
[size=1]Richard Learned[/size]
[size=1]Randy Phelan[/size]
[size=1]W Hayter[/size]
[size=1]Stephen Wilson[/size]
[size=1]Dunlon4[/size]
[size=1]Supersmile (maybe)[/size]
[size=1]Ted Idlof[/size]
[size=1]Dan Upchurch[/size]

[size=1]From the SportsRacer.net site:[/size]

[size=1]Bob Wheless [/size]
[size=1]Bob Wheless (wants 2)[/size]
[size=1]Matt Conrad[/size]
[size=1]Steve Ott[/size]
[size=1]Jason Somers[/size]
[size=1]Tom Bootz[/size]
[size=1]Rennie[/size]
[size=1]"Z15Racer" (Maybe)[/size]
[size=1]Ed Dickenson[/size]
[size=1]Mike Devins[/size]
[size=1]Clark Lincoln (if a good looking blonde will deliver it)[/size]

[size=1]and lastly:[/size]

[size=1]BryanCohnRacing who wanted everyone to know that he was shocked that racers wanted to try and save some money. [/size]


[size=1]Looks like a grand total of 31 people ready and 5 who might be. I believe Jamie's guy (CDOC, I believe, [/size][size=1]http://www.cdoc.com/home.asp[/size][size=1]) needs a list of definates. We also need to know if you want anything besides a 30ME... they have 10 in stock and will get the remainder asap- I know I can borrow Mike's for the ARRC so I'm not in a huge hurry. I'd rather see the guys who need them for an upcomming race get them 1st. [/size]

[size=1]Congratulations to everyone buying (or who currently owns) a Head and neck safety device! I think its great that we are deciding to buy something thats no fun to buy for safety's sake. [/size]

[size=1]If you need another size, if your name was omitted, if you are in a huge hurry etc, etc, post it now. Otherwise I hope we can all send a check to CDOC to get the group rate and save ourselves $186. Bryan, feel free to send the $186 to ME if it makes you feel better![/size]

I tried on Steve Roux's model 40 this weekend, and it looks as if that's the
right one for me. Are the 40's also available at a discount through this
purchase, or just the model 30's?

Thanks,
John

I'll find out John!

I also fitted TimW's HANS this weekend. It looks like a 30 Medium is the right fit for me in the VanDiemen. It was MUCH more comfortable than the Simpson collar I wear. So do we get all the free stuff from HD too, or is that only if we pay their price (which was what)?

[size=2]Keith- I am working on getting us the CDOC discount + the H/D goodies. We will see. :) [/size]
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I called CDOC to check with Jamie and was told that he no longer works there. I was then transfered to a person there who has had this group buy dumped in his lap. He will review the posts here and at the DSR Forum and promised to call me tomorrow with the best deal he can do. I suggest anyone who has not sent their money in wait until the latest details are finalized.

Stan

Stan if you would like to take over on this, be my guest. Otherwise Jamie has been dealing w/ Mark at CDOC for us and I have been working w/ Hans directly. I assure you, we are all over it.


On edit-

Stan is right about not sending $$ yet. We just need a final #, and sizes.

Hopefully we are able to get both offers (free stuff and $949). We do already have the $949 deal and the list of names was sent to CDOC. Everyone calling CDOC/ Hans/ whoever will only confuse this situation as Stan found... He talked to someone other than Mark. Once everything is finalized we will let you know when to send the $$ and to whom at CDOC.

Ok Stan? ;)

Please believe me that I'm not looking to take over anything.

I was merely following the instructions you posted this morning on the DSR Forum, and decided to check with Jamie to see if I needed to send my helmet in with the check...only to be told that he didn't work there any more. After about 30 minutes I finally spoke with someone else who told me he'd been handed the job. My only suggestion is that we let CDOC sort out who's on first and give us a final, no-ifs-ands-or-buts offer before sending money.

That way nobody ends up with egg on their face.

You got it! :)

Oh yeah, I'm in for a 30ME.

Ok bud.

I'll fix the post on the other site.

:confused: :D :p :) ;)

Sorry eye. Its fixed.

[size=2]Here is the final deal... [/size]
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[size=2]CDOC will sell us the devices for $949 w/ free install & free shipping. [/size]
[size=2]Hans is supplying an extra set of helmet anchors and colored padding for free! [/size]
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[size=2]1st 11 orders (of 30ME- this is what CDOC has in stock) will get the devices faster but w/o the extra anchors or colored padding. [/size]
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[size=2]I would like to request that everyone involved applies a CDOC sticker to their car as a way of thanking CDOC for the support. [/size]
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[size=2]Mark (CDOC rep) will post here tomorrow w/ the details about how and when to send in your $$. He will hold the checks until they get the min number required for our group purchase... so don't delay! People who say yes then do nothing get slammed by me on this board. ;) [/size]
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[size=2]Now I have to go back to work![/size]
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Sweet!

Sean, Jamie and all involved,



first off I want to say thank you for all the leg work being done.



I am on the list as a maybe, but if this deal goes through I will be a yes.
I am not in a rush as I also need to buy a new helmet.


a question for all,
I now wear a bieffe helmet with the chin spoiler, and it seems to interfere with a friend’s device that i tried on.


I am a 17" neck which seems to fit into the 30 med, but wouldn't mind if someone with same neck size who actually has worn one commented on what size they have. Also, what type of helmets do you use? Before my bieffe I wore a simpson in my FF with no chin spoiler or rear upper lip, seems like it would work, but when I wore that helmet in my 95 VD FC it was VERY uncomfortable from the wind pushing and lifting, to the point I only wore it that one time. I think i will need a helmet that at least has some type of spoiler at the upper rear. anyone have this problem, what helmet did you use to solve?



thanks all

len amato

Sounds great!

I love spending money.........!

sticker?............no problem

STICKER!?

I'll have to talk with my agent... ;)

Does one need quick disconnect tethers to be able to attach the Hans, helmet, connect belts, etc, all by yourself. I like to do my 'getting in the car routine' all by myself. Can one get in the car, place the hans on, connect the belts, put on the helmet, and then attach the tethers to the helmet with the standard tethers, or do you need the quick disconnect hardware?
Thanks for any info you guys can provide.
Also thanks for the leg work regarding this deal.

Bill Herscher
FormulaCars@msn.com

Bill,
Depending on the car, the flexibility of the driver and the like, I would say probably not.
But I have no prayer of getting in the car by myself, HANS or not.

HANS recommends against the quick release tethers in an open car (they can blow in the breezes and become unhooked.
I have seen them and do not think that they would be any less difficult to attach to your helmet when getting in the car than the standard ones.

I can do my standard ones myselt standing outside of the car, but I put my helmet on then get in the car

Steve

I see Jims name (Jim Roberts) under the Westroc banner and we still need to determine size and angle.

We also have another Westroc driver, Corey Collins, and he also needs to be on the list and again we need to determine size and angle.

Looks like all the Reynard guys are buying 30 degree right?? Somebody let me know cause I need to confirm this information with the drivers and then be ready when are ordering.

Thanks

Lynn Roberts

Hi Lynn,
When I drove the 88 Reynard of my former teammate, my 30 deg worked and fit just fine.

Steve

[size=1]From Mark Francis @ CDOC:[/size]

[size=1]We at CDOC understand the importance of safety in racing because we are staffed by people who race. We are pleased to offer you special group buy pricing on HANS devices for your members. These special prices are available through Friday October 14, 2005 5:00 PM EST. Orders will be fulfilled on a first come first serve basis. We will accept payment by credit card and all orders will include $.01 shipping, and free installation. To place your order please contact CDOC toll free at 1-866-390-2362.[/size]





[size=1]HANS® Model 30 EconomyMedium (Neck sizes 15" to 18")[/size]

[size=1]regular $1135.00 [/size]
[size=1]10+ $999.00[/size]
[size=1]20+ [size=1]$949.00[/size]
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Other sizes/ styles are available... everything from 20E to 40P (S, M & L) so order what you want. The 30Ps are $1650, $1535 and $1450 (depending on quantitly ordered). Discounts are available on all models.


Due to avoiding any complexity we would like to keep everything the same...

You get the Hans Device, Black Padding, Helmet anchors (reusable), install kit w/ CD, tethors, free shipping and free install (everything you would normally get).

Order away!

Here are the remainder of the sizes & prices:


[size=2]HANS® Model 20 Device Economy [/size][size=2]Large (Neck sizes over 18) $[/size][size=2]865 [/size][size=2]800 [/size][size=2]760[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 20 Professional [/size][size=2]Large (Neck Sizes over 18") $[/size][size=2]1135 [/size][size=2]999 [/size][size=2]949[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 20 Device Economy [/size][size=2]Medium (sizes 15" to 18") $[/size][size=2]865 [/size][size=2]769 [/size][size=2]725[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 20 Professional [/size][size=2]Medium (Sizes 15" to 18") $[/size][size=2]1135 [/size][size=2]999 [/size][size=2]949[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 20 Device Economy [/size][size=2]Small (13" to 15') $[/size][size=2]865 [/size][size=2]769 [/size][size=2]725[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 20 Device Economy [/size][size=2]Extra Small (under 12") $[/size][size=2]865 [/size][size=2]769 [/size][size=2]725[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 30 Device Economy [/size][size=2]Large (Sizes over 18") $[/size][size=2]1135 [/size][size=2]999 [/size][size=2]949[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 30 Professional [/size][size=2]Large (Sizes over 18") $[/size][size=2]1650 [/size][size=2]1535 [/size][size=2]1450[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 30 Economy [/size][size=2]Medium (sizes 15" to 18") $[/size][size=2]1135 [/size][size=2]999 949[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 30 Professional [/size][size=2]Medium (sizes 15" to 18") $[/size][size=2]1650 [/size][size=2]1535 [/size][size=2]1450[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Model 40 Professional [/size][size=2]Medium (15"to 18) $[/size][size=2]1650 [/size][size=2]1535 [/size][size=2]1450[/size]
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[size=2]HANS® Quick Disconnect Tethers $[/size][size=2]90 [/size][size=2]85 [/size][size=2]85[/size]
[size=2]HANS® Helmet & Device Bag $[/size][size=2]85 [/size][size=2]79.99 [/size][size=2]79.99[/size]

CDOC has my bank card number and other info on file right now - 30 medium economy.

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[size=2]Here is the final deal... [/size]

[size=2]CDOC will sell us the devices for $949 w/ free install & free shipping. [/size]
[size=2]Hans is supplying an extra set of helmet anchors and colored padding for free! [/size]

[size=2]1st 11 orders (of 30ME- this is what CDOC has in stock) will get the devices faster but w/o the extra anchors or colored padding. [/size]

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Sean,
Should I hold off until Friday to order mine if I'm not in a hurry? Then I should be able to get the extra pads and anchors from H/D in the same shipment? Are they shipping free to individual addresses or to one location and we have to work things out from there?

Shipping is free to everyone. (they will send it to you)

They (CDOC) said they would do the colored pads if someone absolutely has to have them but would rather keep it all standard so they are not having to order 3 orange, 1 blue, yada yada. Mark said that you really don't see the pads that much anyway as they are under the device. The anchors are reusable so that is not a huge deal.


Just ordered mine!

Mark at CDOC just took my order. Lets get on it guys.... Need to get all the orders in by the deadline to realize the discount.

Thanks for all your work on this Sean.


Gary

Keith.....if eye may interject this thought about waiting......"get 'er done".........elsewise the deal falls apart?[size=2][/size]

Bill-

I have no trouble connecting or disconnecting the HANS tethers to/from my helmet when I'm strapped into the car. If you can reach your ears, you can handle the normal connectors. They don't come off easily, of course, but they're not difficult to do blind.

I've seen some drivers put on their helmet and HANS before they get in the car, but the helmet restricts my downward vision so much that I prefer to put it on last, after I've checked all the belts, restraints, etc. The HANS tether is about the last thing I do up and one of the first that comes off.

And as others have pointed out, wearing the HANS actually makes the shoulder belts more comfortable... and comforting.

I went to call in my order and wanted to confirm what angle I should use in my '78 Van Dieman. I assumed 30 degree, since that's what everyone's getting, and my ford couldn't be that different. But I measured my seat and got 45 degrees or so, the seat is cupped, so it's hard to know where to measure. Ideas?
Steve

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measured my seat and got 45 degrees or so, the seat is cupped, so it's hard to know where to measure. Ideas?

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You're supposed to sit in the seat and put a smart level on your chest to see what angle is right for you. A 20 is for a sedan, so that means 20 degrees off vertical or 70 degrees off horizontal. However, when I measured myself, I was always at least 40 degrees off vertical (actually 50 reading on the smart level). But 30 degrees is the norm for all the FM guys that I've talked to, so that's what I just ordered myself.

OK, I tried on my chest also and got the same sort of result. I did notice that the curve at the top of the seat sort of rolls my shoulders forward to a more upright position. I guess the real key is the angle of your head relative to your chest/shoulders. I feel better now about the 30 being correct. Thanks for the reply.
Steve

but I have a couple of questions. We order from CDOC for the Hans device (30 EM) and send our helmets into them for install and shipping..Correct? Do we also order the color pads, helmet connectors as part of the package at the same time?

All for $949!

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CDOC will sell us the devices for $949 w/ free install & free shipping.
Hans is supplying an extra set of helmet anchors and colored padding for free!
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Was there not something about a Hans/Helmet bag as well being thrown in on the deal? Who is that ordered through? Same place?

Let me know so I can get my order in and Cal & Christian on the same page. THANKS!