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Old December 16th, 2008, 4:27 PM   #1
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Default Nickel-Bronze (silver) Gas-Welding - WTB rod?

Yes, I still am stuck in the previous century and use torches to do much of my fab work. I moved and cannot access the one place that I knew had several pounds of fluxless 3/32 nickel silver brazing rod sitting on a shelf. I cannot even get them to answer a phone.

I am looking for a source .... even someone with a double-life-time supply who would sell me several lbs worth. All I have found online so far is 2-rod packages of flux-coated BernZomatic NS3 or Allstate #11 ..... neither of which do I even know is the right stuff.

Can anybody help me? I expect 2 lbs would be my life-time supply!
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Old December 16th, 2008, 4:38 PM   #2
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I bought a lifetime supply a few years ago. If you're interested, I'll be happy to sell you half of what I have. I'll check the supply tonight and get back to you with quantity and price.

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Old December 16th, 2008, 4:49 PM   #3
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Default Nickel-Bronze

If SteveG can't help you out, I have a couple of Kg of Sifbronze #2 (mild steel), in 2.4mm diameter, arriving from the UK soon.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 4:54 PM   #4
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I have used this company for rod when needing nickel-bronze http://www.henryjames.com/home.html The company that makes it has some info on the rod http://www.gasflux.com/brazing.html
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Old December 16th, 2008, 5:24 PM   #5
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Kieth, I'd like 2 pounds of SIF#2 if you can spare it. I'm away for while (going to have dinner in New Orleans, which it you live in Ontario is a bit of a production).

I use Allstate 11 coated for most of my routine work. It is silver-bronze, as strong as nickle-bronze, very similar characteristics, but very eutectic. It is designed more for flowing into bicycle frame lugged joints than building up a fillet on a butt joint. I can make it build fillets, but I want to try the SIFbronze on a VD frame I need to change the roll hoop on.

I bought a box of Allstate 11 Coated from my local welding supplier, he had to special order it. It was expensive, but about half as expensive as I suspect the SIF#2 will be.

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Old December 16th, 2008, 5:33 PM   #6
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Has All-State 11 FC nickel-bronze-copper 85k 3/32" $33 for 10 pack flux coated (FC) rod http://www1.mscdirect.com/cgi/nnsrhm

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Old December 16th, 2008, 5:33 PM   #7
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Thanks guys!
I was going to be in Toronto tomorrow and considering making a 2 hr detour to see if the old place still was there and had it. I won't make that trip knowing somebody has what I need.

Is the SIF#2 bare or flux-coated?

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Old December 16th, 2008, 6:09 PM   #8
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I ordered it bare.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 7:22 PM   #9
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Default BernzOmatic

BernzOmatic sells a flux coated Nickel Silver rod in a 2-pack... can find it at most building supply (Lowes, Home Depot, ACE Hardware) - Part # NS-3.

http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(0u...aspx?SKU=23790

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Old December 16th, 2008, 8:12 PM   #10
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I have always used #170 rod similar in composition, approx 10% nickle 48% copper 85,000-95,000 tensile and available at all welding supply stores. Available bare or fluxed. Build up is nice.

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Old December 16th, 2008, 8:57 PM   #11
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I have always used #170 rod similar in composition, approx 10% nickle 48% copper 85,000-95,000 tensile and available at all welding supply stores. Available bare or fluxed. Build up is nice.

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I deal with two major welding supply companies in Phoenix,AZ. Neither could come up with any. Our welders looked at me real strange when I told them what I was looking for (one thing they weld is the lacing on a crane), but once I told them what I was working with (mild steel) and the properties of the joints they understood. But had never used it...

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Old December 16th, 2008, 9:42 PM   #12
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John, it is a Harris welding rod it should be readily available. Most all welding shops sell Harris rod. #17 has similar properties and strength I think it has slightly less silicone.

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Old December 17th, 2008, 12:45 PM   #13
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I have about a pound of Harris #17, if you're interested send me a PM.

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Old December 17th, 2008, 1:06 PM   #14
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I am a Harris Welco Dist. we keep #17fc rod in stock in both 3/32 and 1/8 in stock the bare is also aviable we sell by the lb. or piece Jim
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