In preparation for some of the added features we will be providing on EFCN, I am looking for formula car track records from across North America. If you have one or know of one, please post it here or fire an email over to me. Please include the class/championship, the time, driver name, year set and if possible make and year of car it was set in. Thanks in advance.
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"Faster and faster, until
the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death."
--Hunter S. Thompson
During the last two days we've been hashing out the Barber lap records for SCCA Club Racing. It wasn't easy.
FA 1:24.697 Rick Ross, 8/30/08
FB 1:27.3 Sean O'Connell, 7/8/07
FC 1:29.28 Keith Roberts, 3/16/03
CFC 1:34.669 Mike Eakin, 3/16/03
FM 1:28.9 Darryl Willis, 7/11/04
FE 1:32.047 Jonathan Bennet, 8/31/08
FS 1:29.7 Russ McBride, 7/10/04
FF 1:34.443 David Livingston, 8/30/04
CFF 1:35.5 Steve Robertson, 7/11/04
F5 1:45.1 Clint McMahon, 7/8/07
FV 1:45.9 Jeff Dinges, 7/11/04
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Racer Russ
(former) FF/FC/FM/FS/FB/FA
Marietta, GA
Last edited by RussMcB; September 3rd, 2008 at 9:50 AM.
Reason: Wrong FA record
Oops. I got Rick's Saturday record, which was broken the next day. Rick's record should be 1:24.697.
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Originally Posted by RussMcB
Wow. You've got your work cut out for you.
During the last two days we've been hashing out the Barber lap records for SCCA Club Racing. It wasn't easy.
FA 1:26.2 Rick Ross, 8/30/08
FB 1:27.3 Sean O'Connell, 7/8/07
FC 1:29.28 Keith Roberts, 3/16/03
CFC 1:34.669 Mike Eakin, 3/16/03
FM 1:28.9 Darryl Willis, 7/11/04
FE 1:32.047 Jonathan Bennet, 8/31/08
FS 1:29.7 Russ McBride, 7/10/04
FF 1:34.443 David Livingston, 8/30/04
CFF 1:35.5 Steve Robertson, 7/11/04
F5 1:45.1 Clint McMahon, 7/8/07
FV 1:45.9 Jeff Dinges, 7/11/04
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Racer Russ
(former) FF/FC/FM/FS/FB/FA
Marietta, GA
I think it is a noble task, but I wouldn't want to tackle it if I was Al. Then again, if it becomes a popular resource for lots of racers, it will have a chance at keeping up to date.
Personally, I think SCCA HQ ought to take this on, perhaps in conjuction with the divisions. I know it's easy for me to say, but it would be most efficient (IMO) if updating divisional records was just part of a region's task list following an event.
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Racer Russ
(former) FF/FC/FM/FS/FB/FA
Marietta, GA
Oops. I got Rick's Saturday record, which was broken the next day. Rick's record should be 1:24.697.
Russ,
You also have the F5 record listed incorrectly. Clint turned a 1:35.190 in the Sunday SARRC at Barber last year - 7/8/07. I don't know that it is a track record, but I don't know of any faster laps in an F5.
Steve, FV80 (it's probably a typo on your part - 1:45 instead of the correct 1:35...)
Thanks very much for all your help thus far. Got a couple tracks I'd love to get some lap records for before I make the page live. If you have any info for the following, post here or email me. Thanks in advance
Sebring - both short and long course
Watkins Glen - both short and long
VIR
Road Atlanta
Lime Rock - old course (not sure if any non-pro races been run yet on the new configuration)
Heartland Park - not sure if Runoff records are in fact the lap records
Last month's national at Lime Rock was the first SCCA race run on the newly paved track (in the classic configuration), there were lots of new track records set, including in four open wheel classes. Here are the records from the NESCCA website, listed as set on 8/2/08:
FF - Arthur Foster, Jr. - 52.617
F500 - Mike Brent - 53.397
FE - Justin Huffman - 52.257
FC - Chris Fahan - 50.897
Most of the Road Atlanta SCCA Club Racing records below are from an email message from mid-2007, so many are probably not current. For instance, I think Justin Pritchard has the FB record now. And I think the Pro FF2000 record is lower than Keith Roberts' Club Racing record.
ASR Jean-Luc Liverato 1:23.231 11/13/2005
CF J S Brooks 1:34.433 06/02/2007
CFC Keith Roberts 1:30.232 11/12/1999
CS2 Scott Livingston 1:34.678 11/03/2001
CSR Kerry Jacobsen 1:23.279 06/03/2007
DSR Jean-Luc Liverato 1:22.415 06/02/2007
F5 Clint McMahan 1:32.898 03/25/2007
FA David Grant 1:19.174 03/25/2007
FB Sean O'Connell 1:25.012 03/25/2007
FC Keith Roberts 1:26.523 06/1/2008
FE Matthew Inge 1:27.703 06/02/2007
FF John Robinson II 1:30.096 03/25/2007
FM Jeremy Grenier 1:26.406 03/25/2007
FS David Grant 1:21.032 11/13/2005
FV Michael Leonard 1:43.252 03/25/2007
S2 John Fergus 1:29.116 03/26/2006
SRF Jonathan Bennett 1:40.585 03/25/2007
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Racer Russ
(former) FF/FC/FM/FS/FB/FA
Marietta, GA
Man, what's up w/ VIR anyway?!! (See Steven davis' post above)
FM record there is full on erroneous, something like a 1:54 IIRC, but it is on their official listing. It's from the first year, and was recorded by a very fine fella who unfortunately could never run that pace. In fact anyone else who ever ran an FM there would be hard pressed to get much under a 1:57. What are ya gonna do?
I agree with Glenn....the listed FM track record for VIR is definitely not correct. It was recorded back in the day prior to transponders, and someone in timing and scoring simply made an honest error. I would be very surprised if the actual FM record at VIR was under a 1:57.0. Something in the 1:56's is possible (I have seen it in qualifying), but IMO it would be unlikely for a race lap.
Road Atlanta Lap Records
Effective November 9, 2008
CF J S Brooks 1:33.312 11/08/2008
CFC Keith Roberts 1:30.232 11/06/1999
CS2 Scott Livingston 1:34.678 11/03/2001
CSR Jim Downing 1:23.212 06/01/2008
DSR Ken Tyrrell 1:18.282 03/23/2008
F5 Clint McMahan 1:31.681 06/01/2008
FA David Grant 1:19.174 03/25/2007
FB Glenn Cooper 1:21.477 11/08/2008
FC Keith Roberts 1:26.523 06/01/2008
FE Ian Harms 1:25.257 11/11/2007
FF John Robinson II 1:30.096 03/25/2007
FFX John Robinson II 1:32.513 11/10/2007
FM Franklin Futrelle 1:26.224 03/23/2008
FS David Grant 1:21.032 11/13/2005
FST Greg Rice 1:40.037 11/08/2008
FV Michael Leonard 1:43.252 03/25/2007
S2 John Fergus 1:29.116 03/26/2006
SRF Jonathan Bennett 1:40.585 03/25/2007
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Racer Russ
(former) FF/FC/FM/FS/FB/FA
Marietta, GA
Last edited by RussMcB; November 19th, 2008 at 10:37 AM.
Reason: Corrected Greg Rice's record to his best race lap time (not best qualifying time).
How about that Keith Roberts fella ! CFC and FC records.
I was in the race in '99 when he set the CFC record in a 88 Reynard. Wow! He was in the 30s for multiple laps. At that time it was seconds beyond the rest of the CFC field. John Hersher (95ish VD) showed this year that the record is probably soon to fall. John did a 29 in qualifying. In this years race John opted to play it safe in amougst a gaggle of FMs and make sure he got on the top step of the podium. I'm thinking next year might be the last for Keith's impressive laps in 1999. Still... very impressive for a rocker car.
Road Atlanta Lap Records
Effective November 9, 2008
CF J S Brooks 1:33.312 11/08/2008
CFC Keith Roberts 1:30.232 11/06/1999
CS2 Scott Livingston 1:34.678 11/03/2001
CSR Jim Downing 1:23.212 06/01/2008
DSR Ken Tyrrell 1:18.282 03/23/2008
F5 Clint McMahan 1:31.681 06/01/2008
FA David Grant 1:19.174 03/25/2007
FB Glenn Cooper 1:21.477 11/08/2008
FC Keith Roberts 1:26.523 06/01/2008
FE Ian Harms 1:25.257 11/11/2007
FF John Robinson II 1:30.096 03/25/2007
FFX John Robinson II 1:32.513 11/10/2007
FM Franklin Futrelle 1:26.224 03/23/2008 FP Harold Flescher 1:38.761 03/25/2007
FS David Grant 1:21.032 11/13/2005
FST Greg Rice 1:40.037 11/08/2008
FV Michael Leonard 1:43.252 03/25/2007
S2 John Fergus 1:29.116 03/26/2006
SRF Jonathan Bennett 1:40.585 03/25/2007
Long course:
CF 2:04.279 Bob Berman 08/03/97
CFC 2:02.349 Jim Moser 09/17/07
CFF 2:03.617 Todd Bardwell 09/17/07
CFV 2:24.089 Robert Plencner 06/15/97
FA 1:45:074 Hans Peter Swift 07/15/07
FB 1:54.621 Jeremy Hill Photon 07/15/07
FC 1:52.841 Mike Andersen 07/13/03
FE 1:59.171 Justin Huffman VanDiemen 07/15/07
FF 2:00.662 Tom Schwietz Piper 07/10/05
FM 1:56.312 Rob Nicholas Star Mazda 07/10/05
FV 2:14.957 Brad Stout Vortech 07/11/04
FSCCA 1:58.696 Justin Huffman Van Diemen 09/16/06
FST 2:18.389 Carl Middelegge Evolution 07/23/06
F440 2:08.594 James Hale 07/16/95
F500 2:03.323 Jim Schultz Invader07/15/07
I've turned times significantly quicker than the FE/FSCCA track records, but not in a race since we were classed in FA. This years race was a rain race, and last years was a fuster cluck.
Short Course:
CF 1:23.561 Daniel Pyanowski 09/19/04
CFF 1:21.466 Todd Bardwell 09/16/07
FA 1:13.927 Lewis Cooper, Jr. 10/12/03
FC 1:16.351 Kent Sawyer Van Diemen 09/18/05
FF 1:21.526 Bob Lutz 09/16/07
FM 1:19.549 John C. Faulkner 09/17/00
FP 1:33.170 David Kicak 09/18/99
FSCCA1:18.713 Justin Huffman Van Diemen 09/17/06
FV 1:31.840 Ray Carmody 10/15/00
F440 1:27.546 Tom Shaughnessy 09/15/96
F500 1:22.226 Mike Brent Invader QC-109/17/06
FA 0:52.603 104.709 6/19/2005 GRAHAM RAHAL OVR SWIFT 014
FC 0:55.898 98.537 6/20/2004 CHRIS FAHAN NER VAN DIEMEN RF99
FB 56.417 97.63 6/17/2007 JEREMY HILL GLEN PHOTON VD07
FE 58.655 93.905 6/17/2007 JUSTIN HUFFMAN WDC VAN DIEMEN FSSCA
FF 58.974 93.397 6/19/2005 JOE PARSONS NePa SWIFT DB-8
CFF 1:01.012 90.277 8/15/2004 DAN PYANOWSKI WNY TIGA FFA81
FV 1:06.129 83.292 6/20/2004 GARY KITTELL GLEN CARACAL D
F500 1:00.100 91.647 6/20/2004 JONATHAN DICK OVR INVADER QC-1a
1:00.100 91.647 6/20/2004 MIKE BRENT NER INVADER QC1
FM** 0:57.714 95.435 6/15/2008 STEVE JENKS CINCY Star Mazda
FST 1:06.057 83.383 8/11/2007 NOAH SMITH WOR ZINK Z18b
I've been about a second faster than the FE track record, but again it was while classes as FA. Finished 2nd in that race behind some kid named Rahal.
Nice work Al! Thanks for consolidating all of that info. Now comes the hard part... Maintenance!
__________________ 2003 VanDiemen FSCCA #29 KeithCarter.net
"Faster and faster, until
the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Nice work Al! Thanks for consolidating all of that info. Now comes the hard part... Maintenance!
I agree. Great job. One more good reason to visit the EFCN site.
I've often wondered why the SCCA T&S folks haven't taken extra steps to keep that information in a central location. Admittedly, it would take a significant amount of work, but considering how pertinant the information is to racers (it's our yardstick!), it would be a great resource.
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Racer Russ
(former) FF/FC/FM/FS/FB/FA
Marietta, GA
Like you Russ always thought was a pain there was nowhere to go find that info in one central place. Now if can just get records I'm missing, I'll be a happy camper.
To be honest Keith, figure upkeep won't be too bad, as not every day a lap record gets broken
Hi Alan, I have a few (toot toot). All located on MyLaps.
Date Jul 26, 2008 11:06:00 AM Track Calabogie Motorsport (Stadium) (2.81 km) EventMCO Ted Powell Memorial RacesGroup Ontario Formula Ford ChallengeNew Track Record in FF-B: [32] Andrew Mason (1:13.148)
Date Jul 25, 2009 3:54:00 PM Track Calabogie - Long Track (5.05 km) Event3rd Annual MCO Ted Powell MemorialGroup Ontario Formula Ford ChallengeNew Track Record (2:14.096) for FF B by Andrew Mason.
Date May 31, 2009 3:55:00 PM Track Shannonville Long (4.03 miles) EventDAC Trillium Trophy RacesGroup OFFCNew Track Record (1:50.544) for FF B by Andrew Mason.
I know the Sebring short course FB lap record had dropped since the last post above in 2008. Both Bill Wald and Tom Beattie were way under that 1:07.1 previous lap record last week. They were both in the 06's and I think Tom Beattie lap record is a 1:05.7
Great job, Al. Let's all support him to keep the info current.
Considering how gracious Al was to gather, publish and maintain track records, I suggest looking at the information on their site and sending him any updates*. In other words, don't only post info here in hopes that EFCN might check this thread.
I think we owe Al a big thank you for this effort. Let's all bookmark the that web page and help EFCN maintain the information. It is fantastic, but only if we help keep it current.