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Old September 2nd, 2008, 3:41 PM   #1
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Hi gang,

In preparation for some of the added features we will be providing on EFCN, I am looking for formula car track records from across North America. If you have one or know of one, please post it here or fire an email over to me. Please include the class/championship, the time, driver name, year set and if possible make and year of car it was set in. Thanks in advance.

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Old September 2nd, 2008, 3:50 PM   #2
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Default Laguna Seca, Sears Point, Thunderhill

http://www.sfrscca.org/content/view/4448/93/

Records from the San Francisco region for Laguna Seca, Sears Point, and Thunderhill.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 6:14 PM   #3
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Cal Club does the same thing. Just click on the "Track Records" tab:

http://www.calclub.com/html/headerpa...ng/results.htm

I don't know why every region (or SCCA as the umbrella organization) don't do this.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 6:39 PM   #4
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You're looking for official SCCA track records that are done during races only? Here are the CenDiv track records:

http://www.cendiv-scca.org/03racing/...ckrecords.html

Here are the Great Lakes track records:

http://www.greatlakes-scca.org/node/53
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 11:55 PM   #5
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Wow. You've got your work cut out for you.

During the last two days we've been hashing out the Barber lap records for SCCA Club Racing. It wasn't easy.

FA 1:24.697 Rick Ross, 8/30/08
FB 1:27.3 Sean O'Connell, 7/8/07
FC 1:29.28 Keith Roberts, 3/16/03
CFC 1:34.669 Mike Eakin, 3/16/03
FM 1:28.9 Darryl Willis, 7/11/04
FE 1:32.047 Jonathan Bennet, 8/31/08
FS 1:29.7 Russ McBride, 7/10/04
FF 1:34.443 David Livingston, 8/30/04
CFF 1:35.5 Steve Robertson, 7/11/04
F5 1:45.1 Clint McMahon, 7/8/07
FV 1:45.9 Jeff Dinges, 7/11/04
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 12:27 AM   #6
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Al:

See my website at

www.formularacingltd.com


Go to "About" for recent track records in the exciting new class of Formula F1000
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 1:28 AM   #7
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From Indy cars to Spec-RX:

http://www.willowspringsraceway.com/...on/records.asp
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All I can provide are those published results at www.MyLaps.com as the new track records following the Cent. Fla. Region June 2008 event.

Club Ford - 1:12.881 - CF - Stan Hallock - 1978 Crossle 32F

Formula B - 1:07.192 - FB - William Wald - 2007 Stohr

Formula Enterprise - 1:08.663 - FE [FSCCA] - Robert Webb - 2003 Van Diemen

Formula Atlantic - 1:07.565 - FA - Luiz Nogueira - Swift

Formula Continental - 1:08.656 - FC - Jim Johnson - 2000 Van Diemen
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 9:49 AM   #9
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Oops. I got Rick's Saturday record, which was broken the next day. Rick's record should be 1:24.697.
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Wow. You've got your work cut out for you.

During the last two days we've been hashing out the Barber lap records for SCCA Club Racing. It wasn't easy.

FA 1:26.2 Rick Ross, 8/30/08
FB 1:27.3 Sean O'Connell, 7/8/07
FC 1:29.28 Keith Roberts, 3/16/03
CFC 1:34.669 Mike Eakin, 3/16/03
FM 1:28.9 Darryl Willis, 7/11/04
FE 1:32.047 Jonathan Bennet, 8/31/08
FS 1:29.7 Russ McBride, 7/10/04
FF 1:34.443 David Livingston, 8/30/04
CFF 1:35.5 Steve Robertson, 7/11/04
F5 1:45.1 Clint McMahon, 7/8/07
FV 1:45.9 Jeff Dinges, 7/11/04
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 11:27 AM   #10
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Some of the open wheel records in the Southwest Division are not up to date.
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 3:40 PM   #12
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I think it is a noble task, but I wouldn't want to tackle it if I was Al. Then again, if it becomes a popular resource for lots of racers, it will have a chance at keeping up to date.

Personally, I think SCCA HQ ought to take this on, perhaps in conjuction with the divisions. I know it's easy for me to say, but it would be most efficient (IMO) if updating divisional records was just part of a region's task list following an event.
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Old September 4th, 2008, 12:47 PM   #13
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Oops. I got Rick's Saturday record, which was broken the next day. Rick's record should be 1:24.697.
Russ,
You also have the F5 record listed incorrectly. Clint turned a 1:35.190 in the Sunday SARRC at Barber last year - 7/8/07. I don't know that it is a track record, but I don't know of any faster laps in an F5.
Steve, FV80 (it's probably a typo on your part - 1:45 instead of the correct 1:35...)
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Old September 11th, 2008, 4:04 PM   #14
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Hey Guys,

Thanks very much for all your help thus far. Got a couple tracks I'd love to get some lap records for before I make the page live. If you have any info for the following, post here or email me. Thanks in advance

Sebring - both short and long course
Watkins Glen - both short and long
VIR
Road Atlanta
Lime Rock - old course (not sure if any non-pro races been run yet on the new configuration)
Heartland Park - not sure if Runoff records are in fact the lap records

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Old September 11th, 2008, 4:42 PM   #15
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Al,

Last month's national at Lime Rock was the first SCCA race run on the newly paved track (in the classic configuration), there were lots of new track records set, including in four open wheel classes. Here are the records from the NESCCA website, listed as set on 8/2/08:

FF - Arthur Foster, Jr. - 52.617
F500 - Mike Brent - 53.397
FE - Justin Huffman - 52.257
FC - Chris Fahan - 50.897

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Old September 11th, 2008, 4:56 PM   #16
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Al,
The track records for VIR are posted at
http://www.ncrscca.com/NCR%20RECORDS20080315.htm
although, I'm pretty sure the FV record is bogus.

I'll see if I can get the Road Atlanta records posted for you.
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Old September 11th, 2008, 5:32 PM   #17
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Default Road Atlanta - Probably not very current.

Most of the Road Atlanta SCCA Club Racing records below are from an email message from mid-2007, so many are probably not current. For instance, I think Justin Pritchard has the FB record now. And I think the Pro FF2000 record is lower than Keith Roberts' Club Racing record.

ASR Jean-Luc Liverato 1:23.231 11/13/2005
CF J S Brooks 1:34.433 06/02/2007
CFC Keith Roberts 1:30.232 11/12/1999
CS2 Scott Livingston 1:34.678 11/03/2001
CSR Kerry Jacobsen 1:23.279 06/03/2007
DSR Jean-Luc Liverato 1:22.415 06/02/2007
F5 Clint McMahan 1:32.898 03/25/2007
FA David Grant 1:19.174 03/25/2007
FB Sean O'Connell 1:25.012 03/25/2007
FC Keith Roberts 1:26.523 06/1/2008
FE Matthew Inge 1:27.703 06/02/2007
FF John Robinson II 1:30.096 03/25/2007
FM Jeremy Grenier 1:26.406 03/25/2007
FS David Grant 1:21.032 11/13/2005
FV Michael Leonard 1:43.252 03/25/2007
S2 John Fergus 1:29.116 03/26/2006
SRF Jonathan Bennett 1:40.585 03/25/2007
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Old September 11th, 2008, 6:31 PM   #18
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Man, what's up w/ VIR anyway?!! (See Steven davis' post above)
FM record there is full on erroneous, something like a 1:54 IIRC, but it is on their official listing. It's from the first year, and was recorded by a very fine fella who unfortunately could never run that pace. In fact anyone else who ever ran an FM there would be hard pressed to get much under a 1:57. What are ya gonna do?

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I agree with Glenn....the listed FM track record for VIR is definitely not correct. It was recorded back in the day prior to transponders, and someone in timing and scoring simply made an honest error. I would be very surprised if the actual FM record at VIR was under a 1:57.0. Something in the 1:56's is possible (I have seen it in qualifying), but IMO it would be unlikely for a race lap.
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Default Road Atlanta Lap Records as of 11/9/2008

Road Atlanta Lap Records
Effective November 9, 2008

CF J S Brooks 1:33.312 11/08/2008
CFC Keith Roberts 1:30.232 11/06/1999
CS2 Scott Livingston 1:34.678 11/03/2001
CSR Jim Downing 1:23.212 06/01/2008
DSR Ken Tyrrell 1:18.282 03/23/2008
F5 Clint McMahan 1:31.681 06/01/2008
FA David Grant 1:19.174 03/25/2007
FB Glenn Cooper 1:21.477 11/08/2008
FC Keith Roberts 1:26.523 06/01/2008
FE Ian Harms 1:25.257 11/11/2007
FF John Robinson II 1:30.096 03/25/2007
FFX John Robinson II 1:32.513 11/10/2007
FM Franklin Futrelle 1:26.224 03/23/2008
FS David Grant 1:21.032 11/13/2005
FST Greg Rice 1:40.037 11/08/2008
FV Michael Leonard 1:43.252 03/25/2007
S2 John Fergus 1:29.116 03/26/2006
SRF Jonathan Bennett 1:40.585 03/25/2007
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How about that Keith Roberts fella ! CFC and FC records.

I was in the race in '99 when he set the CFC record in a 88 Reynard. Wow! He was in the 30s for multiple laps. At that time it was seconds beyond the rest of the CFC field. John Hersher (95ish VD) showed this year that the record is probably soon to fall. John did a 29 in qualifying. In this years race John opted to play it safe in amougst a gaggle of FMs and make sure he got on the top step of the podium. I'm thinking next year might be the last for Keith's impressive laps in 1999. Still... very impressive for a rocker car.

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Road Atlanta Lap Records
Effective November 9, 2008

CF J S Brooks 1:33.312 11/08/2008
CFC Keith Roberts 1:30.232 11/06/1999
CS2 Scott Livingston 1:34.678 11/03/2001
CSR Jim Downing 1:23.212 06/01/2008
DSR Ken Tyrrell 1:18.282 03/23/2008
F5 Clint McMahan 1:31.681 06/01/2008
FA David Grant 1:19.174 03/25/2007
FB Glenn Cooper 1:21.477 11/08/2008
FC Keith Roberts 1:26.523 06/01/2008
FE Ian Harms 1:25.257 11/11/2007
FF John Robinson II 1:30.096 03/25/2007
FFX John Robinson II 1:32.513 11/10/2007
FM Franklin Futrelle 1:26.224 03/23/2008
FP Harold Flescher 1:38.761 03/25/2007
FS David Grant 1:21.032 11/13/2005
FST Greg Rice 1:40.037 11/08/2008
FV Michael Leonard 1:43.252 03/25/2007
S2 John Fergus 1:29.116 03/26/2006
SRF Jonathan Bennett 1:40.585 03/25/2007
FP - a new open wheel class?
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Oops. :-).

I meant to delete all the tin top classes from the list I had been given, just leaving formula and sports racers.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 1:00 PM   #24
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Al,
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I know I turned a 1:32.854 at HPT, Sebring long was a 2:12.388
Road Atlanta was Ian Harms 1:25.257, VIR Harms at 1:56.945
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Old November 19th, 2008, 10:44 PM   #25
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http://www.flr-scca.com/race/records.html

Long course:
CF 2:04.279 Bob Berman 08/03/97
CFC 2:02.349 Jim Moser 09/17/07
CFF 2:03.617 Todd Bardwell 09/17/07
CFV 2:24.089 Robert Plencner 06/15/97

FA 1:45:074 Hans Peter Swift 07/15/07
FB 1:54.621 Jeremy Hill Photon 07/15/07
FC 1:52.841 Mike Andersen 07/13/03
FE 1:59.171 Justin Huffman VanDiemen 07/15/07
FF 2:00.662 Tom Schwietz Piper 07/10/05
FM 1:56.312 Rob Nicholas Star Mazda 07/10/05
FV 2:14.957 Brad Stout Vortech 07/11/04
FSCCA 1:58.696 Justin Huffman Van Diemen 09/16/06
FST 2:18.389 Carl Middelegge Evolution 07/23/06
F440 2:08.594 James Hale 07/16/95
F500 2:03.323 Jim Schultz Invader07/15/07

I've turned times significantly quicker than the FE/FSCCA track records, but not in a race since we were classed in FA. This years race was a rain race, and last years was a fuster cluck.

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CF 1:23.561 Daniel Pyanowski 09/19/04
CFF 1:21.466 Todd Bardwell 09/16/07
FA 1:13.927 Lewis Cooper, Jr. 10/12/03
FC 1:16.351 Kent Sawyer Van Diemen 09/18/05
FF 1:21.526 Bob Lutz 09/16/07
FM 1:19.549 John C. Faulkner 09/17/00
FP 1:33.170 David Kicak 09/18/99
FSCCA1:18.713 Justin Huffman Van Diemen 09/17/06
FV 1:31.840 Ray Carmody 10/15/00
F440 1:27.546 Tom Shaughnessy 09/15/96
F500 1:22.226 Mike Brent Invader QC-109/17/06

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FA 0:52.603 104.709 6/19/2005 GRAHAM RAHAL OVR SWIFT 014
FC 0:55.898 98.537 6/20/2004 CHRIS FAHAN NER VAN DIEMEN RF99
FB 56.417 97.63 6/17/2007 JEREMY HILL GLEN PHOTON VD07
FE 58.655 93.905 6/17/2007 JUSTIN HUFFMAN WDC VAN DIEMEN FSSCA
FF 58.974 93.397 6/19/2005 JOE PARSONS NePa SWIFT DB-8
CFF 1:01.012 90.277 8/15/2004 DAN PYANOWSKI WNY TIGA FFA81
FV 1:06.129 83.292 6/20/2004 GARY KITTELL GLEN CARACAL D
F500 1:00.100 91.647 6/20/2004 JONATHAN DICK OVR INVADER QC-1a
1:00.100 91.647 6/20/2004 MIKE BRENT NER INVADER QC1
FM** 0:57.714 95.435 6/15/2008 STEVE JENKS CINCY Star Mazda
FST 1:06.057 83.383 8/11/2007 NOAH SMITH WOR ZINK Z18b

I've been about a second faster than the FE track record, but again it was while classes as FA. Finished 2nd in that race behind some kid named Rahal.

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http://www.greatlakes-scca.org/racin.../track-records

this should have all the track records for all tracks in Great Lakes and should be current for now
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Hi gang,

First off thanks to all those who passed on any track records.

The EFCN Track Guide is now up and running. If you see any errors or have any further info to provide, please feel free to contact me.

http://www.eformulacarnews.com/news_info.php?n=4332

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Old November 25th, 2008, 12:35 PM   #29
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Nice work Al! Thanks for consolidating all of that info. Now comes the hard part... Maintenance!
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Nice work Al! Thanks for consolidating all of that info. Now comes the hard part... Maintenance!
I agree. Great job. One more good reason to visit the EFCN site.

I've often wondered why the SCCA T&S folks haven't taken extra steps to keep that information in a central location. Admittedly, it would take a significant amount of work, but considering how pertinant the information is to racers (it's our yardstick!), it would be a great resource.
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Glad you guys enjoy it thus far.

Like you Russ always thought was a pain there was nowhere to go find that info in one central place. Now if can just get records I'm missing, I'll be a happy camper.

To be honest Keith, figure upkeep won't be too bad, as not every day a lap record gets broken

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Old November 25th, 2008, 3:00 PM   #32
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The track records for the Midwest Division SCCA is at http://www.midiv.org/Code/Archives.htm
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Hi Alan, I have a few (toot toot). All located on MyLaps.

Date Jul 26, 2008 11:06:00 AM Track Calabogie Motorsport (Stadium) (2.81 km) Event MCO Ted Powell Memorial Races Group Ontario Formula Ford ChallengeNew Track Record in FF-B: [32] Andrew Mason (1:13.148)


Date Jul 25, 2009 3:54:00 PM Track Calabogie - Long Track (5.05 km) Event 3rd Annual MCO Ted Powell Memorial Group Ontario Formula Ford ChallengeNew Track Record (2:14.096) for FF B by Andrew Mason.


Date May 31, 2009 3:55:00 PM Track Shannonville Long (4.03 miles) Event DAC Trillium Trophy Races Group OFFCNew Track Record (1:50.544) for FF B by Andrew Mason.
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I know the Sebring short course FB lap record had dropped since the last post above in 2008. Both Bill Wald and Tom Beattie were way under that 1:07.1 previous lap record last week. They were both in the 06's and I think Tom Beattie lap record is a 1:05.7
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The link to Willow Springs track records is out of date. This is a link to a more up to date one.

http://www.calclub.com/html/html2/ar...ackRecords.pdf

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Old October 27th, 2010, 5:03 PM   #36
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New Notes for Sebring

FC Robert LaRocca 1:08.649 Short Course

CF Mike Burkhardt 2:27.283 Long Course

FM Carson Weeder 1:09.115 Short Course

FA Don Boughan 1:07.731 Short Course
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Default Great job, Al. Let's all support him to keep the info current.

Considering how gracious Al was to gather, publish and maintain track records, I suggest looking at the information on their site and sending him any updates*. In other words, don't only post info here in hopes that EFCN might check this thread.

From this web page you can link to either US or Canadian tracks:
http://www.eformulacarnews.com/news_info.php?n=4332

I think we owe Al a big thank you for this effort. Let's all bookmark the that web page and help EFCN maintain the information. It is fantastic, but only if we help keep it current.



* How to contact them to provide current track records:
http://www.eformulacarnews.com/contact.php
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Old October 27th, 2010, 5:24 PM   #38
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Al,

Sebring Long Course
Cole Morgan FC - 2.07.508 2010
John Robinson II FF - 2.17.728 2010
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Default Some NE track records

Pocono FF 1:38:983 Agnifilo 8/16/09

NHIS FF 1:05:751 Treadway 5/3/09

NJMP (Thunderbolt) FF 1:23:265 Treadway 6/6/10

Glen (long) FF 1:59:862 Treadway 7/12/09

Glen (long) NCF 2:05:640 Treadway 9/14/02

Summit FF 1:15:524 Treadway 5/17/09

VIR FF 2:00:421 Treadway 4/18/10
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Old October 27th, 2010, 7:55 PM   #40
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Are you guys sending the info to EFCN in addition to posting it here?
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