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    Default Mazda Sports Racer For Sale

    Well engineered Star Mazda Sports Racer. 250 Horsepower Drummond Rebuild with only three hours. Taylor Gearbox. Wilwood four pot calipers. Three sets of wheels, new rains. Spare Engine Spare Carburetor, and more.
    $26,950.
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    Default I would like to see some pictures

    I think that I know what the car looks like but know we all like pictures.

    I also think that if this is what I think it is it would be a good car for track days or to go to a vintage event where they will let you "run what you brung" as long as you pay. Plus it's a pretty roomie car.

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    Would make a good p2 car

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    Default sports racer

    need more details and pics...tranny? log book?etc...

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    I think Al is having log in difficulties, so it's best to call him. Hope he doesn't mind me chiming in.

    This car is pretty neat, it's got some nice bits on it and I believe it's had some of the traditional FM geometry issues resolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabe View Post
    need more details and pics...tranny? log book?etc...
    the tranny was done by taylor rem, best looking box Ive ever seen. current log book scca and vintage sovren car. easy to drive. lots of room for big guy, or girl. easy to maintain fresh, no accidents. al

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    Any racer porn?? We would love some photos.

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    Something like this?

    https://youtu.be/kBgAt9U7ebU

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    that is the same set up my car is, I would wager the parts on my star masda msr are of a higher quality, this is very easy to drive and maintain, al

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    I put three pics up for Al.

    They are small in the browser (640x480) but if you are interested, save them to your machine and they will be 3.5X larger. I got tired of fighting the web tool

    http://www.zentekno.com/al_msr

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    Default thx Tim

    Thanks for the help

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    The bodywork makes that car so much more sexier than a standard formula mazda.

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    Default body

    I thought about making it into a sreet car, problem is, no room for passenger.

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    Old and busted: Pics on offsite server. New and hot: pics in thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Frog View Post
    The bodywork makes that car so much more sexier than a standard formula mazda.
    Oh...and THIS!!!

    A decent paint job and some elbow grease improves a car's looks immensely. Well done, Al!
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    Default getting old too

    Im building a super car for the street, wanted something light, scary, with f-5000 power like I had in the late seventies. remember the good old days????????????????????

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    How do the lap times compare between the FM and the MSR?

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    Default msr

    very close. I never had new tires on it, and did 1.25s at pacific raceways, the quick mazda guys were in the 1 23s. I figure its very close as this car has 25o hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by stohr racer View Post
    I figure its very close as this car has 25o hp
    So, I assume it's not the Webster MK9 tranny in there?

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    Default tranny

    a total taylor mk 5 geared webster done by them, rem polished balanced, all the good stuff, the gentleman I got the car from had 2 of them and spared no expense doing it. we are still friends, and you know how that goes in racing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Clayton View Post
    Old and busted: Pics on offsite server. New and hot: pics in thread.
    That will teach me what happens when you don't log in for a long time... Last time I was here that option didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stohr racer View Post
    I thought about making it into a sreet car, problem is, no room for passenger.
    Passengers aren't all they're cracked up to be. Been a lot of times I wished my street car had only one seat.

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    lol so true

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    I have raced against one of these a few times. Car has great grunt off a turn. Would make a great hill climb car
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    Quote Originally Posted by stohr racer View Post
    Well engineered Star Mazda Sports Racer. 250 Horsepower Drummond Rebuild with only three hours. Taylor Gearbox. Wilwood four pot calipers. Three sets of wheels, new rains. Spare Engine Spare Carburetor, and more.
    $26,950.
    360-387-3683
    Allen Karlberg
    I'm not familiar with this Star Mazda model. How much does it weigh ? Wheelbase ? Width ? Link to Site for more info ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stohr racer View Post
    Well engineered Star Mazda Sports Racer. 250 Horsepower Drummond Rebuild with only three hours. Taylor Gearbox. Wilwood four pot calipers. Three sets of wheels, new rains. Spare Engine Spare Carburetor, and more.
    $26,950.
    360-387-3683
    Allen Karlberg
    Has this car been sold? Are the pictures of the red car the actual car?

    Update: 10/9/2018 I still can't believe this car hasn't sold. Al must be pretty firm on the price. It's sure something I'd like to have, great looking, at the right price what ever that is for a potential buyer. My problem is I'm to poor to pay anything close to the asking price.
    Last edited by tdf4golf; 10.09.18 at 10:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdf4golf View Post
    Has this car been sold? Are the pictures of the red car the actual car?

    The car is still with Al and, as far as I know, available. It's best to contact him directly by his phone # as he is tired of this computer stuff.

    Tim

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    Is this car legal for p2?
    Thanks ... Jay Novak
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    with a special thanks to every SCCA worker (NONE OF US WOULD RACE WITHOUT THE WORKERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jnovak View Post
    Is this car legal for p2?
    I think the engine is the only major thing that might need some study, I think it's a 3-rotor 13B and I have no idea what the intake is. I gave up on the SCCA and their engine tables a few years ago.

    Think of this as a standard tube-frame Formula Mazda with shock/suspension updates, a different rotary engine package, and bodywork that doesn't look like a FM or an MSR anymore.

    You'd have to ask Al for details. Phone number is in the thread.

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    Default Original developer/owner of Red MSR's

    I'm the person who sold the original MSR to Al a few years ago. I have another one with over 300 HP on a chassis dyne with a peripheral port, MoTec fuel injection and brand new state of the art AP calipers. The body work just got completed and is identical to Al's open wheel concept. We will be testing the car with Moses Smith in the next few months, when time allows. This car has 17 hours on it prior to the conversion to open wheel and the addition of the brakes and Formula Atlantic rear wheels & tires. It had too much power for the original rear tires and too much speed for the Wilwood brakes.

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