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    Default Looking to ID this FSV

    I am a newbie, and recently purchased this FSV. It was raced in Texas back in 70s and 80s by a gentleman named Al Harley. All log books and documentation was stolen in trailer from my understanding. No plates or ID tags that I have located at this time.

    Any help is appreciated.
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    Is here a number stamped on the rollbar? Format similar to nn-nnn. If so, it might be possible to trace the logbook, car type, and (maybe) some history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Nesbitt View Post
    Is here a number stamped on the rollbar? Format similar to nn-nnn. If so, it might be possible to trace the logbook, type type, and (maybe) some history.

    I have not been able to locate any number as of yet. I understand this may be on the roll bar or near it. It appears the car has been painted a couple times and I am looking to uncover the number potentially.

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    Looks cool.

    Do you have any more bodywork, like an engine cover?

    Does Google show any images from when Al raced it?

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussMcB View Post
    Looks cool.

    Do you have any more bodywork, like an engine cover?

    Does Google show any images from when Al raced it?

    Good luck.
    Unfortunately , what you see is about all the info I have on the car. I know that Al Harley owned a shop in San Antonio at one time and raced in likely in some region of Texas in the 70's and maybe into the 80's

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    Out of curiosity, does the car have drum brakes in the rear? (I can't tell from the photos.) If so, that would narrow it down to the first few years of the air-cooled formula, circa 69, 70, 71, and might make it easier for someone to identify.

    Looks pretty complete, it is a shame the log books and other docs were pilfered. Nice find!
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    It looks like a Beach FSV or a copy. Try contacting Ed Ziegler in the Houston area. He has a few varieties of Beach cars.

    If you can post a few photos of the rear suspension it would help

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    Yes, higher resolution pictures showing the front and rear uprights would be helpful.

    The roll bar number will give the Region the car was first teched when it became mandatory around 1972. Your car looks early, probably 1972 at the latest. Here's a picture of one of my roll bar numbers.
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    Default I am completely stumped..........

    NOT an early LOLA,
    might be a FF modified into a SV

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    Quote Originally Posted by chmiller1977 View Post
    I am a newbie, and recently purchased this FSV. It was raced in Texas back in 70s and 80s by a gentleman named Al Harley. All log books and documentation was stolen in trailer from my understanding. No plates or ID tags that I have located at this time.

    Any help is appreciated.
    Yes, this is a Beach SV 16, chassis number unknown. This is an early air-cooled car, and was the original type car designed by Gene Beach for Jo Hoppen of Volkswagen America to begin a new racing series, Formula Super Vee. From small acorns, great oaks do grow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJennings View Post
    It looks like a Beach FSV or a copy. Try contacting Ed Ziegler in the Houston area. He has a few varieties of Beach cars.

    If you can post a few photos of the rear suspension it would help
    I have been told by a couple folks that this is indeed a Beach SV16, evidently one of the earliest models. Thats great info to start with. Any chance you have contact info for Ed Ziegler as mentioned above ? or How I may find him ?

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    I now have this car and the mystery still continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGentlemanRacer View Post
    I now have this car and the mystery still continues.
    There are some Beach resources that Google found for me. Also, I think John Ridings and Edward Ziegler (Houston) are Texas Beach experts. I've chatted with John about his Zink Z5 but he mentioned the Beach cars and the Registry he's helped with. I think they both have been active in CVAR.
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