CARB Please allow me to buy race gas.

[rikgray]

Recently tried to buy race gas.
Seller required this form. I have to certify under penalty of perjury that I will only use race gas in a competition event. CARB requires that race gas be only used in "true competition vehicles".

[Earley Motorsports]

That’s CA for ya.

[Rick Kirchner]

That type of form was common at Fontana back about 2006-ish. Haven't seen it anywhere else, as all the pumps are now automated - Buttonwillow, Willow Springs, Chuckwalla, airfields.

In CA, leaded gas can't go into anything that has a license plate on it - so no street-legal drag cars or track day cars, even if they used leaded fuel "back in the day".

I would guess the race gas issue - if it's unleaded race gas, is because it is not air basin specific - so they don't want it run in street cars.

[SteveG]

I can buy leaded race gas at Laguna Seca, Sears Point and Thunder Hill without any paperwork (as long as the car I'm filling up doesn't have a CA license plate on it).
However, I can't buy AV gas at any close local GA airport unless I'm putting it an flying aircraft, fuel jugs and metal drums not allowed even with a tail number. I can drive >100 mile round trip to buy, not worth the effort for 15 gallons.
Part of the CA thing is road taxes, Race Gas and AV gas don't include road taxes in the price.

Steve

[Rick Kirchner]

your AV gas problem is an airport management problem. There's no prohibition on selling it, in jugs to be carried off the airport property. There are hundreds of small fields with no pumps - people have to bring fuel to the plane. Ultralights too.

Several years ago there was a law firm that represented a lot of FBOs that told their clients not to sell gas to anyone who didn't have a plane on the tarmac. That ass could still be around.

My local airport is glad to make the sale. Do you know of a place with automated pumps? You just show up after the FBO closes.

[Craig71188]

Given the EPA's recent prosecution of small businesses selling "race" parts to people who have then used them on "street" vehicles, looks like a CYA. Read up on the RPM act - my first though was this is spillover from that issue.

[Rick Kirchner]

If this is what you refer to: https://www.thedrive.com/news/31848/...defeat-devices

I don't see any linkage. As I said earlier, some sellers have required a similar form in CA long before the EPA actions you reference. And it should be pointed out that it's pretty obvious these tuners were not working on non-street legal race vehicles. In fact, it seems most were for diesels for "rolling coal".