Actually, Bob Dylan wrote "The Times They Are a Changing"
Perhaps you are looking for "The Cars They Are a Charging"?
Marty
Actually, Bob Dylan wrote "The Times They Are a Changing"
Perhaps you are looking for "The Cars They Are a Charging"?
Marty
So far as having in-helmet headphones to pretend it's a V12, then fine, whatever.
So far as standing trackside, just shoot me right before the first Green.
Environmentally...
I know this is inevitable, but do believe developments from racing have more than covered the gas and emissions our sport uses.
Or maybe it's a case of "That's what I love about you, Wyatt, you can convince yourself of anything."
If we in racing think we're speeding up change, we need to start running hard tires as that's where the real impact is.
yes, you are correct...Originally Posted by Marty Nygard
Ok, how do you know when a car is electrically unsafe just by looking at it. It happens a lot more often than you would think on our FE cars and we have VERY sophisticated systems on the cars.
There are also many occurrences of the safety systems on the car not being "sure" the car is safe so it turns on a red light warning everyone at which point the proper person or persons are brought in to diagnose the problem and they do this in full PPE gear. Until they are done. NO ONE touches that car without proper PPE and another person standing by with a hook to pull someone off the car if it all goes sideways.
Can you see this being implemented at the Club level anytime soon? I sure can't.
"Pulp Fiction" was on the other night, I just had this vision of an electrical specialist working on the car in a rubber gimp suit.
I think I need professional help.
Is it a class 00 or a class 0 rubber gimp suit? It will depend on the battery voltage you know.
Have you met the government? Everything in the Formula-E safety regimen sounds like a possible normal day of racing in 15 years.. depending of course if racing is allowed.. Crew positions will include " hook person..." " electrical gimp suit person..." that is if racing isn't deemed squandering of natural resources or believed to cause cancer. Breathing has been determined to cause cancer by the state of Kalifornistan.
Anyone in this forum remember when driver suit for auto racing was a t-shirt and a burning cigarette? Change is the only constant.
Pit crew clothing of the future
I can see in the future all pit crew members and safety crew members will have to wear 100 Cal arc flash suits. I've been unlucky enough to have to wear them and it is no fun. They also cost $2,000 plus. Since a battery powered EV has no fuel on board will it need a Fire system? What kind of clothing will the driver need to wear? Will the safety crews have to carry electrical testing equipment to test for shock hazard when approaching a car? Will a driver be allowed to get out of a car after a crash before the safety crew test for a voltage leak? Can a battery fire be extinguished? Will you be able to get fire/liability insurance for your home in case of a battery fire or if someone gets shocked/electrocuted? By definition, race cars are always being worked on and the hazard is real.
Last edited by macbt21; 04.19.21 at 10:51 AM. Reason: more questions added
I've noticed that Formula 1 drivers will jump to the ground with both feet when getting out of the car. This due to the risk of an electrical connection between one foot on the ground and the rest of the body still touching the car?
Dean Fehribach
Car owner: SCCA Enterprises FE2 chassis #037.
Car owner: 2017 Ford Mustang EcoBoost Autocross STU
elec vs fuel
Why don't we just run methanol to keep the greenies happy?
Alcohol
Changing to methanol would not be easy. In addition to the fuel itself which Indy Car changed to ethanol, the fuel cells would need to be changed in materials as well as volume, compression would need to be raised to at least 14-15 to 1, MPG would change to requiring much more fuel as a racing engine on methanol or ethanol gets about 2 1/2 MPG and fire suppression changes to water mostly.
All excellent questions that need to be addressed. I am sure that SCCA is working on itI can see in the future all pit crew members and safety crew members will have to wear 100 Cal arc flash suits. I've been unlucky enough to have to wear them and it is no fun. They also cost $2,000 plus. Since a battery powered EV has no fuel on board will it need a Fire system? What kind of clothing will the driver need to wear? Will the safety crews have to carry electrical testing equipment to test for shock hazard when approaching a car? Will a driver be allowed to get out of a car after a crash before the safety crew test for a voltage leak?
Probably not that far. It's not only adding the weight of batteries, it's the increased rolling resistance (wheels) and aerodynamics (chassis/body). You simply cannot compare a car to a motorcycle.
Possible? Sure. Road racing? No way.
I looked into converting a FF to a electric autocross car using FSAE Electric bits. It's certainly workable with about $15k, but it adds a lot of weight (to an already "heavy" car by FSAE standards). And that's not even mentioning the safety/range/recharge/structural issues.
https://www.sae.org/attend/student-e...-sae-electric/
The power/battery unit on these seem to be packaged like a normal bike motor.
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/model/zero-srs
Maybe not as much power as you'd want, but the whole bike is $20k.
Interesting idea. Maybe the F1000 guys could switch to E1000. (I'm getting that suit show above on now).
Nah It’ll be fine
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