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    Default Wanted: Newer FC w/Zetec

    Hi Everyone,

    I am on the lookout for a newer FC w/Zetec motor car preferably with an SCCA logbook/eligible to be in the Pacific F2000 Series.

    Looking for cars located on the west coast.

    Please feel free to email me

    mbutenko1@gmail.com

    Thank you

    -Mikhail
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    Clarify "newer".
    Most of the cars are 18-20 years old...

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    2000 and newer, thank you.

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    There are at least 10 cars that meet your age requirement on the first page of this thread below, any reason you've dismissed them?

    https://www.apexspeed.com/forums/for...-Cars-For-Sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotus7 View Post
    There are at least 10 cars that meet your age requirement on the first page of this thread below, any reason you've dismissed them?

    https://www.apexspeed.com/forums/for...-Cars-For-Sale

    looking for cars on the west coast, post edited. Thank you.

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    Default FC car manufacturers

    This post made me think. It's true that most FC cars are in fact 18+ years old. Does anyone have any knowledge about new car builds, etc.? Status of the class? Any and all thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris P. View Post
    This post made me think. It's true that most FC cars are in fact 18+ years old. Does anyone have any knowledge about new car builds, etc.? Status of the class? Any and all thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks!
    Doug Learned will build a new PIper FC but it will probably cost over 75K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scc33480 View Post
    Doug Learned will build a new Piper FC but it will probably cost over 75K.
    Yes, that and a few more dollars is a real number for a brand new Piper FC with all of the trimmings.

    That being said, if you buy a car from Doug Learned you will get an actual race ready car not a kit that you have to take apart and put back together again....

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    For reference just because a Vandiemen is 20 years old does not make it any less fast as anything else that is out there. So the prices for current cars is good value versus buying brand new. There is no reason a new FC should cost 75k.

    Depending on the price you buy a used car for, plan to put some money into it. For example - If you spend 20k on a zetec you are more than likely going to spend another 10k easy to get it to where it should be. It might need a fuel cell, engine refresh, wheel bearings, rod ends, paint work, set up equipment etc. Just be prepared and know that its well below the cost of a new car and roughly the same cost as a used FF. FC is way more fun than a FF for the same money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianT1 View Post
    There is no reason a new FC should cost 75k.
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    Unless something has drastically changed in the past two years I'm not aware of,

    I don't know anyone that would build a brand new car for less.

    When you add up the cost of new components, 75K for a new car is a bargain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianT1 View Post
    There is no reason a new FC should cost 75k.
    You try building one and get back to us on what you think a fair price would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianT1 View Post
    There is no reason a new FC should cost 75k.
    Yes, with any proper business model, all new parts, and low production quantity, it should be double that. Anybody doing it for only $75K would be doing it as an act of passion, and donating most of the labor costs. Considering the price of new, and decent used cars available for cents on the dollar, people are not building, or buying, new cars. It is what it is. Don't shoot the messenger
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    Well at 75k maybe that's why the class and club racing as a whole in open wheel is stagnant. That pricing just keeps fathers and sons coming out of karting on the sidelines. Not saying you don't know what you're talking about from a manufacturing point of view but from the customer side that's my take.

    Didn't mean to strike a chord over it but you have to see it from both sides.

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    bingo.

    The Radon (now almost 10 years old? Horrors!) was close to $100K and that was with some of us assembling our own cars. I'm pretty sure the Citations are more when all is said and done. Spectrum is in the same ballpark. I have a projection of the cost of a Radon (done in 2010) if 30 of them were built at the same time and it is quite a bit less than $75K each. The economies of scale get quite good above 20 cars. Think about how many VD's were built and sold each year from the early '90s to about 2002.

    A question is what price point will help revive the class? And that doesn't get into the discussion of whether the current design (rules set) is relevant anymore in the world of readily available tub cars.
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    Default RFR F2000 on west coast

    Not sure if it is still for sale but it appears to be in Nevada and a reasonable price...
    Probably worth a shot.

    https://www.apexspeed.com/forums/sho...ula-2000-Zetec

    Best of luck

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    Hi Everyone,

    Thank you for reaching out, I got an opportunity to race spec mustang for the remainder of the season, that I couldn't pass up.
    I'll be putting my search on ice until afterwards.

    Best regards,

    Mikhail

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