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    I'm not a Fiona Apple fan, but she released an album produced at home on Garage Band.

    She titled the album with the hook line she lifted from "The X Files". "Fetch me the bolt cutters."
    “Racing makes heroin addiction look like a vague wish for something salty.” -Peter Egan

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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftdrivr View Post
    While I am generally in favor of anything that takes on the hypocrisy of the self-crowned, purposely devisive and dishonest virtue-Nazis of the twitterverse, [which is what I think they are doing], it's not exactly the nexus of evocative writing meets tight lyrics I was thinking of. At the end of the song, which is mostly a speech, I'm still not 100% sure what they are saying. {maybe it's because I'm getting old?] When Springsteen sings "With her hands on her hips, and that smile on her lips, because she knows that it kills you," [She's the one] You know he's burning for her, and she's playing him like a fool. One sentence, and it's all clear. It's the ability to paint detail and meaning using minimal words that I find impressive.
    "I walk through the cloud of an ex,
    and I feel no tension"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanW View Post
    ". "Fetch me the bolt cutters."
    And you just know something is about to go down. It's like starting a book with "He reached for the gun in the glovebox."
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    Quote Originally Posted by FVRacer21 View Post
    "I walk through the cloud of an ex,
    and I feel no tension"

    ChrisZ
    That's more like what I meant.
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    Sometimes you can get the image from just the title of the song...

    Sounds Of Silence.
    Darkness on the Edge of Town
    Heart of the Sunrise

    etc....
    Anything is possible, until it is proven impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Ahrens View Post
    Sometimes you can get the image from just the title of the song...

    Sounds Of Silence.
    Darkness on the Edge of Town
    Heart of the Sunrise

    etc....

    All good examples of what I was speaking of. I guess the best example [I can think of at the moment] of the title doing it is "Bridge Over Troubled Water," and the afore-mentioned "You were the first to be the last."
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    Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
    Removes the colours from our sight.
    Red is grey and yellow white.
    But we decide which is right.
    And which is an illusion???"

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    PS - second best line

    Letters I've written
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    Default To & fro the races...

    I've gone crazy on this road ... with all of this travellin alone
    But the asphalt is burnin' tonight ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FVRacer21 View Post
    Cold hearted orb that rules the night,
    Removes the colours from our sight.
    Red is grey and yellow white.
    But we decide which is right.
    And which is an illusion???"

    Chris Z

    PS - second best line

    Letters I've written
    Never meaning to send

    I'll see your Moody Blues, and raise you some Mellissa Ethridge; [Dance Without Sleeping]

    "Walking on the edge of rage and understanding
    Between the black and the white
    This child is so angry
    Alone here tonight"

    She [and Kevin] get a lot said in this short burst. Every adolescent can probably relate
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftdrivr View Post
    ..........

    She [and Kevin] get a lot said in this short burst. Every adolescent can probably relate
    These lyrics fit the theme - but the whole album is full of pull quotes. The Who's answer to Catcher in the Rye - Quadrophenia.
    Tommy was first, but this might be better.....

    5:15

    Girls of fifteen
    Sexually knowing
    The ushers are sniffing
    Eau de Cologning
    The seats are seductive
    Celibate sitting
    Pretty girls digging
    Prettier women


    Magically bored on a quiet street corner
    Free frustration in our minds and our toes
    Quiet storm water, m-m-my generation
    Uppers and downers, either way blood flows

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    "My love is vengeance, it's never free." [The Who; behind blue eyes]

    I always found The Who to be very negative, angry, sad. Still, some of their lyrics were well written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftdrivr View Post
    I always found The Who to be very negative, angry, sad. Still, some of their lyrics were well written.
    I agree - most great lyrics seem to focus on the darker side of life, but:

    And like one and one don't make two
    One and one make one
    And I'm looking for that free ride to me
    I'm looking for you

    From Bargain - they did a few "love" songs - Townshend was a little more circumspect on his solo stuff.

    You could do an entire thread on the lyrics of the Who, Springsteen, Billy Joel, The Beatles, etc - we need to pull some others out of the woodwork....


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    Speaking of Billy Joel,

    "Then she says she wants affection, as she reaches for the blade," [Stiletto]

    Heard it on my way home. Yes, anger, sadness, betrayal, frustration are all fonts of fine lyrics.

    The thing that impresses me, as a writer, are the guys who can use a dime's worth of words, and get a dollar's worth of emotion / imagery / and/or ambiance in response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftdrivr View Post
    The thing that impresses me, as a writer, are the guys who can use a dime's worth of words, and get a dollar's worth of emotion / imagery / and/or ambiance in response.
    Soooooooo...…..it's a PROFIT deal...…. (Steve Martin)…….lol

    Sorry......again...…
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacratt View Post
    Soooooooo...…..it's a PROFIT deal...…. (Steve Martin)…….lol

    Sorry......again...…
    Glenn

    Or, you could say that it's about economy, maximizing the impact by choosing great words. In "I wish you peace," the Eagles [well, Bernie Leadon and Patti Davis], could have said lots of things, but I doubt anyone could communicate the meaning any better than the line "cooling water at the fevers end." That was the perfect analogy, the perfect phrasing
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacratt View Post
    Soooooooo...…..it's a PROFIT deal...…. (Steve Martin)…….lol

    Sorry......again...…
    Glenn
    Most of the performers and artists of the 60 and 70's got ripped off so they never saw the money. Just by accident I came across this video and it explains a lot of what went on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIssqxixYp0

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    Quote Originally Posted by FVRacer21 View Post
    - we need to pull some others out of the woodwork....


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    "They sportin' short dresses, wearin' spike-heel shoes
    They smokin' Lucky Strikes, and wearing nylons too"

    [ ZZ Top ; Nationwide]
    Sometimes it's not adolescent angst or lost love. Sometimes it's just fun. Still, good writing comes through
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    Cause we baadddd.....we Nationwide.

    ....and then there's what the drag strip announcer says at the end of Steve Miller's "Livin' in the USA" but those words do not appear on any online lyric search.......the end of which is him saying "He takes it!"

    ....and then I bought Quadrophenia again just the other day because I haven't totally ruined my hearing yet.............

    "Here by the sea and sand
    Nothing ever goes as planned"

    Thanks Mom everywhere........
    It's the little old Lady from Pasadena.

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    I was a dj so I am a music geek.....

    My vote:




    This may be too progressive for the older crowd.... but I am young at heart although too old for this....

    Ministry - Jesus built my hotrod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXCh9OhDiCI
    Primus- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBQ2305fLeA

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    For all of us flower children, (or who believe we are - age is not a requirement.)

    The velocity addicts explode on the highways
    Ignoring the journey and moving so fast
    Their nerves fall apart and they gasp but can't breathe
    They run from the cops of the skeleton past
    Petrified by tradition in a nightmare they stagger
    Into nowhere at all and they look up aghast
    And I wave goodbye to speed
    And smile hello to a rose


    Tim Buckley - Goodbye and Hello


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYFlij-rD9o

    The only one I knew who played this was Jonathan Schwartz on WNEW-FM out of NYC.

    He was on from 6 - 10 so I associate this song with the 8pm hour - does not seem to fit at any other time

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    Odd to see Metallica and Johnny Cash together, but then, I love Sarah Brightman and Enya, but also Emmy Lou Harris's "Pancho and Lefty", "Tulsa Train", and Patsy Cline's "Crazy."
    So, from Deep Purple; " Smoke on the Water" is a pretty evocative title [and a great song.]
    And Emmy Lou Harris [to branch out from rock for a minute] [Pancho and Lefty] "The deserts quiet and Clevelands cold." and "His horse was fast as polished steel." Great line!
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    All the Road Running by Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris.

    Well if you're inclined
    To go up on the wall
    It can only be fast and high
    And those who don't like the danger
    Soon find something different to try

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    Don't stand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Frog View Post
    All the Road Running by Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris.

    Well if you're inclined
    To go up on the wall
    It can only be fast and high
    And those who don't like the danger
    Soon find something different to try

    Really nice song. I had never heard it before.

    "
    A million miles our vagabond heels
    Clocked up beneath the clouds"

    I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgaluardi View Post
    Don't stand
    Don't stand so
    Don't stand so close to me

    "Step aside, open wide, It's the loner.
    If you see him in the subway, He'll be down at the end of the car."

    Social Distancing

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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftdrivr View Post
    Odd to see Metallica and Johnny Cash together, but then, I love Sarah Brightman and Enya, but also Emmy Lou Harris's "Pancho and Lefty", "Tulsa Train", and Patsy Cline's "Crazy."
    So, from Deep Purple; " Smoke on the Water" is a pretty evocative title [and a great song.]
    And Emmy Lou Harris [to branch out from rock for a minute] [Pancho and Lefty] "The deserts quiet and Clevelands cold." and "His horse was fast as polished steel." Great line!
    Search for it on You Tube, there are several versions.
    Mark Knopfler and Emmy Lou Harris collaborated live. Absolutely haunting..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanW View Post
    Search for it on You Tube, there are several versions.
    Mark Knopfler and Emmy Lou Harris collaborated live. Absolutely haunting..
    Couldn't find the duet of Pancho and Lefty, but that is a really well written song, [by Townes Van Zandt, not that I knew that an hour ago] Her voice and pacing really does add to his already haunting lyrics. Definitely one of those "I wish I'd written that!" songs.
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    Jethro Tull, Skating Away

    Well, do you ever get the feeling
    That the story's too damn real
    And in the present tense?
    Or that everybody's on the stage
    And it seems like you're the only
    Person sitting in the audience?

    Yes, Roundabout

    Along the drifting cloud
    The eagle searching down on the land
    Catching the swirling wind
    The sailor sees the rim of the land
    The eagle's dancing wings
    Create as weather spins out of hand

    David Bowie, Ziggy Stardust

    Making love with his ego Ziggy sucked up into his mind
    Anything is possible, until it is proven impossible.

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    My wife's a David Bowie fan, but I never really got into his music. I like "Fame', but no particularly evocative lyrics there, to my ear. It is all subjective, however, depending on the emotions, memories, and
    mental images evoked in the listener, which won't be the same for everyone.].
    Here's something from a song I really like. [Tracey Chapman; Smoke and Ashes.]

    "Your light and your heat have all been spent
    Leaving only smoke and ashes"

    There is a lot of fine writing in the lyrics of that song, but this says it so well you hardly need the rest. It's both succinct, and evocative.
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    "them kind of cars don't pass you everyday"

    -Prince

    "then i turned myself to face me, but i never caught a glimpse"

    -David Bowie

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    This always ran through my mind when buckling in:

    "Let me ride on the Wall Of Death one more time
    You can waste your time on the other rides
    This is the nearest to being alive
    Oh let me take my chances on the Wall Of Death"

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    I'm going to go off on a tangent here because I saw this again the other day and it still tears my heart out almost 20 yeas later:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI

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    Long Story:

    1968. Boomers had so exploded the population of Florida State University that many freshman classes were being held at night.
    Cold January night. First meeting of Humanities course being taught by one graduate student; Julian Compton. Class was a mix of everything from sorority girls in mandatory dresses to long haired hippies in bell bottom Levis and buffalo sandals.

    Compton introduces himself and immediately instructs the students to write down the name of the musical entertainer that would still be popular in 20 years. He then asks each student to give their answer and their reasoning.

    The ensuing discussion eats up a good part of the hour. After the last answer was given, Compton says "You are all wrong." At the front of the room are blackboards that slide back and forth enabling one to be hidden.
    With a flourish, Compton slides back the front board with all the students projections; Beatles, Elvis, Beach Boys, Everly Brothers, etc.
    On the hidden board, now visible, are two words artfully written in many colors of chalk taking up most the board:


    Rolling Stones

    Compton quietly exits the room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Nygard View Post
    This always ran through my mind when buckling in:

    "Let me ride on the Wall Of Death one more time
    You can waste your time on the other rides
    This is the nearest to being alive
    Oh let me take my chances on the Wall Of Death"
    excellent point: ever since the song came out, when I was jumping in the car (or Kart) I was singing “I just wanna fly” by Sugar Ray
    I will also say that I have a Track Day play list as well.....

    @Purple Frog: Spot On.
    @Bardahl77 not at all - I watched an interview with Rick Rubin about producing Hurt; one statement sits with me “When Trent sang the song it was good, when Johnny sang it, it was Hopeless”

    geez, I could do this all night lol!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftdrivr View Post
    My wife's a David Bowie fan, but I never really got into his music. I like "Fame', but no particularly evocative lyrics there, to my ear. It is all subjective, however, depending on the emotions, memories, and
    mental images evoked in the listener, which won't be the same for everyone.].

    "It's not the side-effects of the cocaine
    I'm thinking that it must be love."

    Station to Station
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Frog View Post

    Rolling Stones

    .

    "I see a red door and I want it painted black
    No colors anymore I want them to turn black"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Nygard View Post
    This always ran through my mind when buckling in:

    "Let me ride on the Wall Of Death one more time
    You can waste your time on the other rides
    This is the nearest to being alive
    Oh let me take my chances on the Wall Of Death"

    What song is this from? After "Hurt" and "Paint it black', I need a dose of speed [Pun intended]
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftdrivr View Post
    What song is this from? After "Hurt" and "Paint it black', I need a dose of speed [Pun intended]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcFhyy2kgdo

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    Cool! I think I saw one of these acts as a kid. Like the song, too. And in that vein;

    "Speeding down the fast lane, honey, we're playin' from town to town
    The boys and I've been burnin' it up, can't seem to slow it down
    I've got the pedal to the floor, our lives are runnin' faster
    We got our sights set straight ahead, but I ain't sure what we're after"

    [Molly Hatchet; Flirting with Disaster]
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    Back to the Who. Goin Mobile

    I don't care about pollution
    I'm an air-conditioned gypsy
    That's my solution
    Watch the police and the taxman miss me!

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Since 2000, ApexSpeed.com has been the go-to place for amateur road racing enthusiasts, bringing together a friendly community of racers, fans, and industry professionals. We're all about creating a space where people can connect, share knowledge, and exchange parts and vehicles, with a focus on specific race cars, classes, series, and events. Our community includes all major purpose-built road racing classes, like the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA) and various pro series across North America and beyond. At ApexSpeed, we're passionate about amateur motorsports and are dedicated to helping our community have fun and grow while creating lasting memories on and off the track.
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