No relation.
P1/P2 homologation. Would it even be competitive given it's a production silhouette competing against big downforce prototypes?
https://www.facebook.com/TrackCarsTr...12260705610967
TracKing TT01 for sale
No relation.
P1/P2 homologation. Would it even be competitive given it's a production silhouette competing against big downforce prototypes?
https://www.facebook.com/TrackCarsTr...12260705610967
Too much drag, too much weight, not enough downforce for P1 or P2. I'm not sure what other SCCA class it would be legal in and competitive. None I suspect.
Looks like a TCR car. Odd...
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It's a shame the class the chassis was designed for (CM hill climb) doesn't have much crossover in North America.
TT01 = Hayabusa, Quaife GDU, cooling upgrades, etc
RC01 = CM spec, chain diff, GSX-R1000
Outside of CM I believe a few folks have ran it in E2-SH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMajuCFIQr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyMmX_ChQb8
I'm not sure why the SCCA granted P1 homologation as I applied for P2 homologation only since the car has a flat bottom rear diffuser only. Car weight is roughly 480kg ± 5kg.Originally Posted by holmberg
The TracKing has multiple class French hill climb championships and is faster than some formula and prototype cars.
http://www.rallycross-photo.com/heuv...ont-dore-2016/
I don't see why it couldn't be competitive in the run offs with some allowances for parity by the SCCA.
Adam Auerbach
TracKing TT01 CM Prototype SCCA P1/P2
TrackCars.com
They probably gave you P1 due to the engine. See the SCCA rules.
On Facebook you said it's a modified 220-HP 1340cc Hayabusa. Modified engines are not allowed in P2. In P2 you can have an unmodified 1345cc motorcycle engine with a 33mm restrictor and a minimum weight with driver of 1185 lbs. If your driver weighs over 129 lbs, your car will be over weight (480 kg = 1056 lbs).
In P1, you can have a 1455cc modified motorcycle engine with a 38mm restrictor and a minimum weight with driver of 1100 lbs. Or 1455cc, no restrictor, and 1150 lbs with driver. Or a modified 1355cc, no restrictor, and 1075 lbs with driver. Again, your car will be over-weight with driver.
P1 also allows more down-force devices than P2.
To be competitive in either P1 or P2 requires you build the car to the limits of the rules. The right engine, the right weight, the right down-force, the right aerodynamic drag. You've got to get the combination in perfect balance. You car doesn't. I think the car's aerodynamics are the biggest problem.
Probably the easiest path to make this car competitive is to target P2 with unmodified Hayabusa with 33mm restrictor, lose about 60 lbs, and come up with a body with much lower drag and incorporating a front splitter/wing and rear diffuser.
Even so, competing with the Ligier's and the Stohr's in P2 will be difficult.
Greg
Last edited by holmberg; 10.26.20 at 7:43 PM.
There's a DP02 with 400+ turbocharged horsepower soon to be revealed in P1 (if not already) ...
This sedan is sadly a paperweight in P1. Buy it as a track-day toy.
Ian Macpherson
Savannah, GA
Race prep, support, and engineering.
Turbo P1
I don't think turbochargers are allowed in P1.
where in the GCR do you see that? (I don't)
Ian Macpherson
Savannah, GA
Race prep, support, and engineering.
It doesn't appear in the P1 engine table.
This is super neat, but I agree that it is going to get stomped in either of P1 or P2. It kind of reminds me of a Euro-inspired Legends car where instead of a 1930s American car silhouette, it's an Audi DTM car. I am a little surprised with how much work into this car, it has no splitter and such a narrow wing?
-Mark
Mark Uhlmann
Vancouver, Canada
'12 Stohr WF1
Is it no longer considered bad form to poo-poo on other's for sale ads?
My mistake. I thought I was in the Classified forum when I posted. Carry on.
Last edited by Daryl DeArman; 10.28.20 at 12:59 AM.
Correct. As stated in 9.8.1.C.J.4., "Engines not specified in the table below are not permitted in P1." The provision for a 670cc turbocharged engine in P1 was dropped several years ago.
Stan Clayton
Stohr Cars
In general I'd say yes, but since its a request for information by a possibly potential buyer, its gloves off, say what you want.
For 50K you can buy a really nice car that is very competitive in P1 or 2.
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