Watercooled VW adapter to Porshe 914 gearbox

[GreginCanada]

Hi group , is there a way to bolt a FSV style VW water cooled engine to a 914 transaxle ? I have an adapter to bolt it to a Hewland but of course the bolt spacing is slightly off for the 914 box or an un-flipped VW based case. Did FSV ever use both un-flipped cases and water cooled engines at the same time ? Anyone have a spare adapter if they exist ?

Greg

[Steve Demeter]

not sure but do not think that the water pumper and unflipped box was used.

[Rick Kirchner]

Steve's correct - with the water-cooled motors they flipped the box just like a FF.

I'll have to look. I have an adapter for a water cooled motor to a hewland, but I don't know if its for a flipped or unflipped configuration. I do recall that some guys wanted to convert their ACs to WCs, and perhaps for structural reasons you might want to leave the box as it was when AC.

I don't have a WC motor laying around, so if you can provide a sketch with the size and distance of the fasteners referenced to "up" I can compare to a VW case I have.

Or send me a pic of your adapter with "up" indicated.

[problemchild]

Please excuse my ignorance, but how does it matter if the transmission is flipped or not? Same bolt pattern and centerline, which should give 4 potential orientations. Those bellhousings become irregular/egg/oval shaped with use, so if your bolt pattern does not work, perhaps you need to massage the case and make it regular again.

[BeerBudgetRacing]

Try:

https://www.kennedyeng.com/engine-adapters

They adapt to the 914 - just pick an engine (they have the 1.6 on the 4-cyl list)

[GreginCanada]

I always thought they were symetrical as well but they are not. Top two are about 7 3/4 in. apart, bottom two about 8 1/2 in. apart. I don't have a metric tape measure handy but that's within a couple of mm accuracy. Close but about 3/4 in. difference. so you can't just flip without an adapter.

[GreginCanada]

Steve's correct - with the water-cooled motors they flipped the box just like a FF.

I'll have to look. I have an adapter for a water cooled motor to a hewland, but I don't know if its for a flipped or unflipped configuration. I do recall that some guys wanted to convert their ACs to WCs, and perhaps for structural reasons you might want to leave the box as it was when AC.

I don't have a WC motor laying around, so if you can provide a sketch with the size and distance of the fasteners referenced to "up" I can compare to a VW case I have.

Or send me a pic of your adapter with "up" indicated.

My engine is still in a car mounted to a hewland. I probably wont be taking anything apart until the winter. Just trying o do some figuring out at this point.

[GreginCanada]

Try:

https://www.kennedyeng.com/engine-adapters

They adapt to the 914 - just pick an engine (they have the 1.6 on the 4-cyl list)

No doubt they can do it but the cost is generally up there for their parts. Very nice parts but from what I have seen not cheap. I am hoping someone has a used one gathering dust.

[S Lathrop]

VW actually made a drawing for the adapter to mate a water cooled engine to the Hewland box. I have a copy of that drawing. I used it to make the adapter for the Honda Fit to the same transmission.