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    Default Lola Air Cooled Super Vee Registry

    Calling all faithful Lola Air Cooled Formula Super Vee Owners. For many years there have been efforts to determine an accurate number of how many Lola Super Vees remain, their chassis numbers, the owners and where they are located. The Lola Heritage site has rarely been updated and doesn’t reflect which cars are out there. This documentation would not only provide all owners with a current listing of what remains but would be invaluable for information, car history, parts, pictures, anything to keep these historic cars alive.

    The Lola Air Cooled Super Vees have never been given the recognition that they deserve. The Super Vee series was a success from day one in the U.S. as well as in Europe. Many great names have driven these cars in the Bosch Pro Series being the stepping stone to the top. Let’s join together as a group of proud Lola owners to finally set the records straight.

    Below is the actual production list from Lola
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    T250, 20 Built (1971), Space Frame
    T252, 42 Built (1972), Space Frame
    T320, 22 Built (1973), Aluminum Monocoque
    T322, 16 Built (1974), Aluminum Monocoque
    T324, 25 Built (1975), Aluminum Monocoque
    T326, 12 Built (1976), Aluminum Monocoque

    Provide information via a Reply to the Post or thru a PM…..

    I currently own a Lola T250 HU09 and a T252 HU26. We have just completed a thorough two year ground up restoration on the T250. The T252 will be following shortly.

    Thank you,

    Frank G. Muegge
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    The sportscar nose we designed and made a mold of..........









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    Default www.formulasupervee.com

    Many Lolas are listed here. https://www.formulasupervee.com/registry.html

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    I'm attempting to organize a Lola only, Air Cooled only registry, since most of these cars were mostly forgotten and discarded once the water cooled cars were introduced. Many information and parts for these cars are getting impossible to find........

    FGM

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    I agree that Gerald isn't the fastest to respond to email but my ownership of my Lola T326, HU71 is listed there. Slowly getting it ready for the track early next year!
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    Beautiful cars, always wanted one

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrh3 View Post
    Beautiful cars, always wanted one
    They're available.
    Heck, you may be able to talk me out of mine! All it takes is money!
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    Don't forget the T-328.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Demeter View Post
    Don't forget the T-328.
    The 328 was Lola's first water cooled FSV based on a modified 326 chassis.. There was one air cooled car listed as a 326/328-83. Apparently this was an unsold 326 which was upgraded to 328 specs but still using the Type IV engine.

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    I'd be interested in any setup info for my T326 if anyone is willing to share.

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    That blue car looks fantastic.

    It reminds me of my buddy's Tui FSV back when I first got interested in SCCA racing (early-mid 80's). There was also a very fast local (New England) aircooled autocross car (Goodale's). Can't remember the chassis.

    Very cool cars. I look forward to more pictures (and seeing Garey's in person).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garey Guzman View Post
    I'd be interested in any setup info for my T326 if anyone is willing to share.

    Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
    Here are specs for the T324 from Lola, they are nearly identical.......

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    2 fast I respectfully disagree.

    At least on this side of the pond, the T-620 in 1978 was the first water pumper.

    T-328 was a 1977 model.

    Know this cause I owned one that was bought new from Carl in 78 at a deep discount. It was owned by a local friend ( and I crewed it at the Runoffs in 79 and 80) before I purchased it in spring of 1981.

    Lots of T 32.. series cars did get converted to water pumpers however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Demeter View Post
    2 fast I respectfully disagree.

    At least on this side of the pond, the T-620 in 1978 was the first water pumper.

    T-328 was a 1977 model.

    Know this cause I owned one that was bought new from Carl in 78 at a deep discount. It was owned by a local friend ( and I crewed it at the Runoffs in 79 and 80) before I purchased it in spring of 1981.

    Lots of T 32.. series cars did get converted to water pumpers however.

    I have a friend who had a water cooled T328. Lola lists the car as being water cooled. As I had mentioned above, one left over T326 was rebadged a T328 while leaving the air cooled engine in it. Below is a copy of an actual Lola drawing noting the T328 as a water cooled car......



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    Well I know what the drawing says but the chassis plate on my car said T-328, not T-326. Perhaps there were some T-328's AC imported because water cooled was not in use in the US in any form until 1978.

    Just saying.

    The T-328 obviously existed as water cooled in Europe in 77, as the photos in earlier posts show.. Also, the Lola drawings that came with my car did in fact say T-328.

    Now Carl might have done something unusual with this car before selling it.

    I think the chassis number was HU 95.

    See link for a shot of an air cooled T-328
    http://www.dlg.speedfreaks.org/archi...autos/2842.php


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Demeter View Post
    Well I know what the drawing says but the chassis plate on my car said T-328, not T-326. Perhaps there were some T-328's AC imported because water cooled was not in use in the US in any form until 1978.

    Just saying.

    The T-328 obviously existed as water cooled in Europe in 77, as the photos in earlier posts show.. Also, the Lola drawings that came with my car did in fact say T-328.

    Now Carl might have done something unusual with this car before selling it.

    I think the chassis number was HU 95.

    See link for a shot of an air cooled T-328
    http://www.dlg.speedfreaks.org/archi...autos/2842.php


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    SOVERN AC Super Vee Specs.

    sovrenracing.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/2013-FSV-Specification.pdf


    I'm not here to dispute your claims I was just presenting the records that Lola has on record, and as I stated before Lola posted that one left over 326 was rebadged as a 328. It's a shame that probably we will never know the truth. I'm just here to accurately document what we know is out there now to preserve the brand history............

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    Default 1974 T322 as built by Lola HU-34

    Hi Frank,
    I have a 1974 Lola T-322 Supervee and it is as built by Lola, (minus type 4 1.7L eng.)
    If people have questions about the 320 series cars I may be able to help with pictures,
    as I believe most of these chassis were very similar.
    I'll try to attach a few pics:
    Attached Images Attached Images

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken holley View Post
    Hi Frank,
    I have a 1974 Lola T-322 Supervee and it is as built by Lola, (minus type 4 1.7L eng.)
    If people have questions about the 320 series cars I may be able to help with pictures,
    as I believe most of these chassis were very similar.
    I'll try to attach a few pics:

    Hey Ken, nice car, beautiful restoration. Really like the engine cover. How about some pics without the bodywork. You may have the only all original car. Most were upgraded to 324 specs, sportscar nose, rear wing, engine cover, "pants" engine cooling ducts.

    My 252 that is next in line for restoration was only raced for two years then put in a corner for 30 or so years until I found it. It is completely original as Lola had delivered it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2fast2stop View Post
    Hey Ken, nice car, beautiful restoration. Really like the engine cover. How about some pics without the bodywork. You may have the only all original car. Most were upgraded to 324 specs, sportscar nose, rear wing, engine cover, "pants" engine cooling ducts.

    My 252 that is next in line for restoration was only raced for two years then put in a corner for 30 or so years until I found it. It is completely original as Lola had delivered it...........
    Hi Frank, thanks for the compliment on the restoration, but the compliment belongs to Lola.
    This car is New. It has never had any fluids in it other than assy. lube in the hewland gearbox.
    The engine cover appears to one piece, but it is actually three. There's the engine cover and two air
    intakes. The intakes are attached to the heads. This was the only Lola Supervee with the air intakes.
    I also believe it is the only original T322 left.
    I'll try to get some chassis pics at a later date as I have the car stored on a rack.
    Here are some Lola promotional pics and info people at Carl Haas sent me:
    I also have the optional rear deck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ken holley View Post
    Hi Frank, thanks for the compliment on the restoration, but the compliment belongs to Lola.
    This car is New. It has never had any fluids in it other than assy. lube in the hewland gearbox.
    The engine cover appears to one piece, but it is actually three. There's the engine cover and two air
    intakes. The intakes are attached to the heads. This was the only Lola Supervee with the air intakes.
    I also believe it is the only original T322 left.
    I'll try to get some chassis pics at a later date as I have the car stored on a rack.
    Here are some Lola promotional pics and info people at Carl Haas sent me:
    I also have the optional rear deck.
    Wow, how did you ever find and acquire this rare piece of history, I would bet that's a great story.

    I have the moulds for the engine cooling scoops and have a beautiful new set on my 250.


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    2 Fast, is your 252 the Dexter Riegert (sp?) car that was in storage in his shop in St. Louis at one point in time? As I recall he went to Bob Sharp racing and did cages in the 80's. He did a cage for me on my Datsun 2 liter back in 1978 among other local Datsun racers and I remember seeing an air cooled SV that I think was a 252 when I was in the shop. Gifted welder. He also welded a Mk 9 Hewland case for me when I got out of Production cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DD16 View Post
    2 Fast, is your 252 the Dexter Riegert (sp?) car that was in storage in his shop in St. Louis at one point in time? As I recall he went to Bob Sharp racing and did cages in the 80's. He did a cage for me on my Datsun 2 liter back in 1978 among other local Datsun racers and I remember seeing an air cooled SV that I think was a 252 when I was in the shop. Gifted welder. He also welded a Mk 9 Hewland case for me when I got out of Production cars.
    Why yes it is. I bought it quite some time ago from Scott Livingston when it was lying around his garage at the old Gateway road course. Joe Wedig drove the car and Dex was the wrench. For some reason Joe drove it for a couple of seasons then parked it. When I bought it the engine, gearbox and rear uprights were gone but the rest was there and in good shape. The car was never bent and the paint still looks good. I'm finally going to restore it as a tribute to Joe and Dex. I don't have pictures of the car from years ago but Terry McKenna gave me a stack of race results from when he was racing against Joe.

    BTW, no "t" on the back of Rieger...............

    FGM

    Here is a pic of the bodywork center section. A little wet sanding and polish, good as new............



    The original Rain Light/Exhaust Mount



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    Great, glad to hear that it will be resurrected. "Caged by Dex" was something to be proud of on the rear of your car. If anyone would have the old sheets it had to be Terry. Good luck.

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    And thanks for the pictures of the tripod mirror mount! I have to make one for my March VFF!

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    Default Great effort

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    I will, of course, enter my info for my Lola T324.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken holley View Post
    Hi Frank,
    I have a 1974 Lola T-322 Supervee and it is as built by Lola, (minus type 4 1.7L eng.)
    If people have questions about the 320 series cars I may be able to help with pictures,
    as I believe most of these chassis were very similar.
    I'll try to attach a few pics:
    Ken, this car is absolutely stunning. Readily apparent is the ultimate care in attention to detail. Nicely done.

    Are these care available in restorable condition?

    V/r

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Iverson View Post
    ...Are these care available in restorable condition?...
    There's a beautiful, Runoffs-winning one for sale now!
    https://www.apexspeed.com/forums/sho...5-Lola-T324-SV

    Less prestigious one's are available, possible my T326 after i go through it. Not quite as nice or valuable as Brian's in the link. I know where another one or two were last summer but neither were Lola's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Iverson View Post
    Ken, this car is absolutely stunning. Readily apparent is the ultimate care in attention to detail. Nicely done.

    Are these care available in restorable condition?

    V/r

    Iverson
    Thanks Rick,
    Lola really did a nice job on their cars. This car is actually Brand New. I bought it almost 30 yrs ago.
    My intent was to race the car until people talked me into preserving it as original. As we all know most race
    cars were modified and updated as improvements came along.
    Thanks to Frank, this car is finally being seen. I sent pics to the Lola registry, but they never got entered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken holley View Post
    Thanks Rick,
    Lola really did a nice job on their cars. This car is actually Brand New. I bought it almost 30 yrs ago.
    My intent was to race the car until people talked me into preserving it as original. As we all know most race
    cars were modified and updated as improvements came along.
    Thanks to Frank, this car is finally being seen. I sent pics to the Lola registry, but they never got entered.
    Ken,

    Gerald Swan of Lola Heritage is making a concerted effort to update all records to include owner's pictures. I have already sent all records and pictures to him.........

    A picture of your car is already on the T322 page,

    http://www.lolaheritage.co.uk/2018/t...t322/t322.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2fast2stop View Post
    Ken,

    Gerald Swan of Lola Heritage is making a concerted effort to update all records to include owner's pictures. I have already sent all records and pictures to him.........

    A picture of your car is already on the T322 page,

    http://www.lolaheritage.co.uk/2018/t...t322/t322.html

    FGM

    Thanks again Frank and a thank you to Gerald too. I can't imagine how much work is involved with these registries.
    Am very interested in watching the restoration of your cars, as what we've seen so far looks really good.

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    Worth pointing out to Gerald is an error about the "T252 succeeding the T320."

    He meant T322.

    It's also listed that Howdy Holmes and Herm Johnson scored 1975 wins in T322s, when both were driving T324s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E1pix View Post
    Worth pointing out to Gerald is an error about the "T252 succeeding the T320."

    He meant T322.

    It's also listed that Howdy Holmes and Herm Johnson scored 1975 wins in T322s, when both were driving T324s.


    You are correct sir but Gerald is putting all his effort into making the new registry as accurate as possible. He does ask for any input anyone may have to assist in the updating process. I did send him info on my Lolas and within a week Gerald had them listed with my name, chassis numbers and location, so things are moving forward. He also wants pictures of the cars as well. In return he sent me some most valuable information on my cars from the Lola Chassis Logs. The following info was sent to me:

    From the Lola’s Chassis Logs, T250 HU09 was invoiced to Carl Haas (as Lola’s North American agent) on 7th May 1971 as a rolling chassis fitted with Royal Blue bodywork. The log for T252 HU26 shows it was Invoiced to Haas on the 12th July 1971. It was fitted with Hewland gearbox H8 1306, engine number127 U 001745 and Blue bodywork.

    FGM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Demeter View Post
    2 fast I respectfully disagree.

    At least on this side of the pond, the T-620 in 1978 was the first water pumper.

    T-328 was a 1977 model.

    Know this cause I owned one that was bought new from Carl in 78 at a deep discount. It was owned by a local friend ( and I crewed it at the Runoffs in 79 and 80) before I purchased it in spring of 1981.

    Lots of T 32.. series cars did get converted to water pumpers however.
    Just noticed this debate, so here’s some info to support Steve.
    I own T-328 HU99. I’m the original owner - bought it from Carl (Peter was the salesman) and traded in my 1966 427 Corvette.
    I got $3500 trade-in and I believe the car was $7500 -$7800. Of course I lost the paperwork.
    The deal was for the FSV in a crate (white gelcoat), fresh rebuilt Bertils air cooled, ATS wheels (black centers) and tires.
    I know it was the last one, because I wanted a different color. I don’t remember the exact date, but I didn’t know anything about the
    water cooled cars at the time. The assembled chassis in the crate was strictly built for the air cooled motor.
    DJSILLS

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    A great video for all S/V lovers:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7EqU2oklm2U

    For those wondering, the drivers interviewed at the start are:
    Howdy Holmes, "Fast Eddie" Miller (my unofficial big brother to today), Tom Bagley, Tommy Thompson (RIP, Trenton 1977), Bill Alsup (RIP 2016, Friend), and Herm Johnson (RIP 2016, Friend and painting mentor).

    Very rare and fun video of a class I wish was still active.
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    I've watched this video a few times, oh how we appreciate video quality today. So many great drivers used FSV to further their careers. It would be great to have a 50th reunion next year and have a field as large as it was back then when Super Vee was a big deal...............

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    HI Frank,
    Lola FSV 252 HU58 is owned by Allen Johnsen Grand Junction Co. Lola FSV 252 HU59 is owned by Del Howard Grand Junction co. Lola FSV T-324 HU66 is owned by Kirk Clifford Grand Junction Co. These cars and a FSV Tui a FSV Royal and a FSV Winkelman are all restored and racing out of Allen Johnsen Racing Serv Grand Junction Co.
    Thanks A.J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Demeter View Post
    Well I know what the drawing says but the chassis plate on my car said T-328, not T-326. Perhaps there were some T-328's AC imported because water cooled was not in use in the US in any form until 1978.

    Just saying.

    The T-328 obviously existed as water cooled in Europe in 77, as the photos in earlier posts show.. Also, the Lola drawings that came with my car did in fact say T-328.

    Now Carl might have done something unusual with this car before selling it.

    I think the chassis number was HU 95.

    See link for a shot of an air cooled T-328
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    See link for
    SOVERN AC Super Vee Specs.

    sovrenracing.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/2013-FSV-Specification.pdf

    Steve,

    About six months ago I bought a water cooled T328, HU97, that I am currently restoring. Whether this is an original WC car or a conversion I don't know. everything from the main hoop back is the same as the T620. I sent all available info to Gerald Swan and hopefully he can verify it one way or the other.

    FGM

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken holley View Post
    Hi Frank,
    I have a 1974 Lola T-322 Supervee and it is as built by Lola, (minus type 4 1.7L eng.)
    If people have questions about the 320 series cars I may be able to help with pictures,
    as I believe most of these chassis were very similar.
    I'll try to attach a few pics:
    My first born male child for the paint color code. Fabulous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Iverson View Post
    My first born male child for the paint color code. Fabulous
    I don't need another kid but the color is the same as the McLaren's. Per the McLaren Foundation guru, the color (colour) is RAL 1028, Melon Yellow. The bodywork company, Specialised Moulding, also did March bodywork and it's the color of my new bodywork for my 719 FF.
    Garey Guzman
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    https://www.thekentlives.com/ (includes information on the FF Kent engine, chassis and history)

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    Frank

    As you know, I own 1975 ex Jerry Jolly / Bertil Roos, HU 61.....

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    John, I was at Pocono when your car won the Pro race in 1976.

    You'll be proud to know it was as slideways as ever (Bertil's trademark word about driving style). That guy was brilliant.

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