REGISTRY OF PFMs

[bkd320]

To all that cruise this forum, I am asking that you PLEASE reach out to me with the chassis number of the car(s) that you own. IN support of FCC and FRP, I would like to add a registry to my soon to be redesigned website (www.formulasupervee.com) that currently is the registry for Formula Super Vee.

The reason for this is that I DON'T want to see these car fall victim to the same fate that the Formula Super Vee (both air and water cooled). I currently own and infrequently race my A/C FSV because there really is no vintage class for them. Further, up here in the mid-Atlantic/Northeast region of the US.

At this time, I own Elan chassis 05576 and have another tub in a box that has no chassis # on it because it was sent to Honda in Japan for development of a Honda power unit that would fit to the tub. This of course went nowhere and now I have a new tub that could be built. Additionally, I have changed direction on selling my car and have acquired 2 more cars with comprehensive spares package and will be in possession of those cars 2 days after Thanksgiving.

The Pelfrey cars - all 4 - went to Arms Up Racing, Machiko's car was purchased by his father, Telo at FCC, no clue how many he has and is aware, Horak at Star Race Cars has the one he has raced but undoubtedly knows where more of them are. PLEASE if you would, send me the following:

Chassis/Tub #
Owner name
Geographic location (doesn't need to be your home address, but where does the car live)
email address


While in the process of needing to spend about $2K on the FSV site, I can get some efficiency's if I build the PFM site along with it.

Thanks in advance for your willingness to let me know where these VERY cool cars are, let's keep them on the track in their own class.

Best,
Ben

[mikey]

Chassis/Tub # 04-053
Location Tampa Bay, FL

I own it. Car has never been part of the pro series. Was originally bought by Greg Byrne, doctor in TX. His friend also bought one, and the pair of them had memberships at Texas Motorsports Ranch.

It was sold to Maris Kazia, he had it a year or two, then sold it to me. It’s been a track day only car its whole life.

[bkd320]

Mike -

THANK YOU for the history and information. If I did not make you aware, my goal here is NOT to create some form of marketing tool to pedal parts, its to catalog what remains and where the cars live.

To all else - 127 readers, and only 2 responses. I will continue to ask in earnest, please if you would be so kind - reach out to me and let me know so we can create a community and with hope get some form of series together to keep these cars racing.

Thank you all for your consideration.

[HazelNut]

per the schedule announcement last month the previous generation cars can run in the pro series

"In Pro Mazda, the National Class will be replaced by the Pro Mazda Classic (PMC) Series – a six-weekend, 12-race championship within the Pro Mazda Championship utilizing the older Pro Mazda rotary-powered cars from 2002 to 2017. The series will see a separate points chart, prize money and year-end awards."

https://www.promazda.com/news/mazda-...dule-announced

Those with cars just need to show up and put up some numbers! We've had a hell of a lot of fun running with indycar over the past 2 seasons. Anyone who's interested in doing this PM me and I'll happily give you the run down and details from my experience.

[HazelNut]

Correction. I got confirmation this morning that "PFM Classic" isn't going to happen.

[dalz]

Damn, that blows. They must've calculated that they have enough new cars sold and testing that they don't need the old cars to make a good green flag photo. Probably about...14.

[mikey]

Damn, that blows. They must've calculated that they have enough new cars sold and testing that they don't need the old cars to make a good green flag photo. Probably about...14.

honestly I think it's fine. probably better chance of all the old pro cars coming out into amateur land. maybe we can get a FCC on the east coast and the cars could be competitive and have fun with each other. SCCA has them in FA and they don't compete well against Swift 014 or 016.

one thing for sure, all the PFMs belong out on track! they are just stupid fun for the money and relatively easy to drive (for anybody with a reasonable level of maturity and experience.)

[HazelNut]

Damn, that blows. They must've calculated that they have enough new cars sold and testing that they don't need the old cars to make a good green flag photo. Probably about...14.

the new car is legitimately much faster than the old car, so far 3-5 seconds (depending on the track) under tracks record with the old car. So there was a reasonable concern.

I went and looked at the new car and went to a multi team test at Barber. I like it and am considering one, but not for this year.

[bkd320]

honestly I think it's fine. probably better chance of all the old pro cars coming out into amateur land. maybe we can get a FCC on the east coast and the cars could be competitive and have fun with each other. SCCA has them in FA and they don't compete well against Swift 014 or 016.

one thing for sure, all the PFMs belong out on track! they are just stupid fun for the money and relatively easy to drive (for anybody with a reasonable level of maturity and experience.)

Mikey -

THERE IS AN EAST COAST SERIES FOR PFM! Check out the attached link:

http://www.atlanticchampionshipserie...a-entries.html

I have 3 PFM's on the floor in the shop (the ex-AIM Motorsports car and the 2 ex-JDC cars) available for lease to qualifies drivers/teams that are interested. Email for rates and terms of lease if you want to go race with FRP!

[mikey]

Mikey -

THERE IS AN EAST COAST SERIES FOR PFM! Check out the attached link:

http://www.atlanticchampionshipserie...a-entries.html

I have 3 PFM's on the floor in the shop (the ex-AIM Motorsports car and the 2 ex-JDC cars) available for lease to qualifies drivers/teams that are interested. Email for rates and terms of lease if you want to go race with FRP!

Very cool - maybe RA and VIR for me.. from FL, the others are too far. Sending the motor out for a rebuild soon!

[HazelNut]

I'm bringing a pair of PFMs to the FL majors. I think we're also going to run FRP some this season too, I'd say Road Atlanta
for sure.

[Kazis31]

Congrats Ben.
Looks like proper stable.
Best wishes for new venue.


P.S.
Once i wrap my lack of driving skill around F3
might venture in some club racing waters...

[Lotus7]

Not much feedback as yet on the registry.

I checked the old results - we had 41 cars at two events in 2004, versus the 11 last year, so there's 30 cars to track down.
Discount the half-dozen or so that periodically show up in scca/FRP, where are the other two dozen?
I have a recollection that Telo had a fair few out at Worldspeed, but still lots unaccounted for.

[HazelNut]

Tilo has a ton of them

[dalz]

Bob Kaminsky is the original owner his PFM since 2004. If you don't have his info I'll see if I can get it.

That's curious that ArmsUp bought a bunch of old PFMs. ??

[HazelNut]

Bob Kaminsky is the original owner his PFM since 2004. If you don't have his info I'll see if I can get it.

That's curious that ArmsUp bought a bunch of old PFMs. ??

I heard theyre planning on doing some FRP events and a "formula car experience" type thing with them. Totally unconfirmed rumor mill on the later though so take it for what it's worth.



Also we will not be at the FL majors after all. Tried to leave yesterday. Looks like my f450 puked an engine.

[dalz]

I heard theyre planning on doing some FRP events and a "formula car experience" type thing with them.

That would jive with a young driver's social media post of testing one with AUM this fall, with a photo of them lined up in the Blackhawk pit lane. Sounds ambitious.