Hi All,
Any updates on the Runoffs? It proves to be challenging with all the entrants!
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Hi All,
Any updates on the Runoffs? It proves to be challenging with all the entrants!
Very difficult to follow testing pace as timing cannot differentiate between cars with the same numbers (but in different classes) and of course, the huge mixed test groups.
Holden was the early pace-setter doing 44s. Payne was fastest on Saturday in the 45s. Kautz, Ketchie, Benson and Brumbaugh were the pace-setters on Sunday. High 45s, 46s and 47s were better times on Sunday, with most other FFs in the 48 range.
The kent cars were going well (Ketchie, Benson and Brumbaugh).
Sorry if I missed anyone who should be noted. Very tough to follow and published SCCA times are quite humorous. I was very busy on Friday with loading in with 95 degree heat.
Greg Rice, RICERACEPREP.com
F1600 Arrive-N-Drive for FRP and SCCA, FC SCCA also. Including Runoffs
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Sounds like the track configuration is slightly different from the one SVRA used during the OWWC.
Yes. An extra loop towards the back of the grandstands instead of the turn 5-6 chicane. Looked like it should be fun.Originally Posted by Rick Kirchner
Caldwell D9B - Sold
Crossle' 30/32/45 Mongrel - Sold
RF94 Monoshock - here goes nothin'
5 laps in the qualifier today? Probably 3 at speed?
Yikes.....
Yes .. the outlap is a LONG one.. about 2 1/2 minutes off the specified 18 minute session time. Then drop a BFA at about 7 1/2 minutes .. and your session is DONE. Takes some FIVE minutes to clear the track... five or 8 more to clear the incident. They did let cars back out at the end, but NO ONE got a full timed lap at speed after the BFA. **AND** the BFA was for a car sitting along the pit wall (trackside, yes). but not moving and well away from any issues at T1... as far as I could tell - mostly from what the audio was saying since there is no video of that section of the track.
I'm sure it won't be the last time this happens. I remember THREE timed laps for FF in one of the Daytona sessions in 2015.
Steve, FV80
Racing since '73 - FV since '77
I guess the secret is set your time early....
Yes, the comment was made that MOST 'Fast times' were set in the first 2 or 3 laps .. all day long.
Steve, FV80
Racing since '73 - FV since '77
Anyone know if there is a way to see the race? Live streaming? When? Where?
Jim
Swift DB-1
Talent usually ends up in front, but fun goes from the front of the grid all the way to the back.
According to SCCA, there will be live stream of all races ... check the standard SCCA/Runoffs page on race days for the link.
Steve, FV80
Racing since '73 - FV since '77
FF and F500 have been split for the final day of qualifying. 10 minute sessions each. Probably for the better, even though the session is shorter. The sessions this week, especially the out-laps, have been very hairy with the mixed grouping.
Chris Horan
I would not call it a secret, but being fast is the key. If you have the speed, then it is much easier to get it done with very limited opportunity. Fortunately, with 4 days of dry weather, the grid will be very indicative of the true picture. Looks to be a great race. Atleast 5 club guys, and the 5 Pro guys all have a real good shot!
Greg Rice, RICERACEPREP.com
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Awesome race
The pro-series has brought really top-notch competition to the FF grid, and they put on a great show. Super, clean, competitive racing. Hopefully, it will be picked for the CBS broadcast.
A shout out to Jon Swanson for making the show! Anyone know what happened to Ketchie, and Jon, and Benson, etc.? Derek's car looked a mess, but they never showed what happened. They said he was okay, which is the most important thing, but he did a number on the wall, I'd guess.
Jim
Swift DB-1
Talent usually ends up in front, but fun goes from the front of the grid all the way to the back.
From what I saw, and where people were on track at the moment of Ketchie's incident, I THINK he ended up tangled with Rick Payne, who went out almost immediately afterward. When it happened, they would have been very close together on track.
It wasn't a kind day to my fellow SCCBC club members at the Runoffs: Rick was out by lap 5, Cheri Storms in B-Spec was punted by someone having an over the track limits, snap back across the track moment, and Andrei Kisel was out of T3 in the same session (although I don't know why).
Congrats Formula F
Those last few laps were awesome, the situational awareness was top notch from the Pelfrey/K-Hill cars.
Also seeing Rick Payne make everyone look silly at the start by going from 9th to 2nd before turn one was something else, too bad he wasn't able to finish... What happened to Kautz?
Robbie Arthur FV #67
Very good race. Certainly the toughest FF field in memory. So ironic, that so many of the club racers claim to be afraid of running with the "Pro" kids, but the 6 youngsters from the FRP Series all kept it together to finish in the top 8, (with 2 other FRP part-timers) while the SCCA club racers crashed and bashed into early retirement.
Greg Rice, RICERACEPREP.com
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That was a great race! Huge props to the drivers and to the track safety crews for keeping it green for so many laps. I was skeptical, but this venue is far better than I imagined from a logistical and organizational standpoint. Wish there was more time on the oval, but there was still a lot of action within the FF race.
If you mean Jon Swanson, I'll take heat for that.
He and I had a good race going, swapping back and forth as each of us got in the middle of the Kevin Brumbaugh/Lawrence Bangert battle. We gave room to each other, were respectful, lots of three-wide and even 4-wide once down the front straight into turn one.
On the last lap I got a run on Swanson on the short straight between turns 12/13 when he got held up at apex of 12 by Brumbaugh/Bangert. We went side-by-side into turn 13 and my car chattered across the curbing and into Swanson. We contacted rear tires, which bounced him up in the air and he broke his left front upright when it came down on my right front. He was not able to continue and I was.
I feel bad. We had a good clean race going, and the contact cost him driving under the checker/finishing. Not the way I want a position, especially since we had been close but clean the entire race.
Last edited by racerjon1; 09.30.17 at 1:29 PM.
Jon K - 1986 Swift DB3/Honda
Jon,
Bummer it happened that way. Too bad we never got to see any of the battles in the back, as the lead pack kept the cameras on them. This may be a plus for FF overall however, as maybe CBS will give us some air-time and maybe attract some new people, but I didn't really get to see any of the multiple people I know who were running. Maybe someone can post some in-car so we can see the 'races within the race'.
Jim
Swift DB-1
Talent usually ends up in front, but fun goes from the front of the grid all the way to the back.
I'll post my in car journey from 2nd to 15th to 4th on YouTube when we get home. It was a very competitive week. It was a dogfight up front, and the expected attrition followed.
Chris Horan
let us know when it's up! That will be a great race to see. Congrats on your race. Anyone of the front five or six could have won, from the looks of it.
Jim
Swift DB-1
Talent usually ends up in front, but fun goes from the front of the grid all the way to the back.
Chris Horan
Thanks for posting that. Great run!
Jim
Swift DB-1
Talent usually ends up in front, but fun goes from the front of the grid all the way to the back.
Outstanding Chris!
Fuel pump issue.
Greg Gauper
#15HP
2011 HP National Champ
I didn't make the Monday session because of a stubborn wheel nut and resulting stub axle carnage, so my loss is the board's gain and I actually got pictures of most of the field. (Cars No. 32/42/70 and myself - No. 171- didn't go out but I was able to fill in my picture and No. 32 from my GF's pictures.)
So... (Most of) the 2017 SCCA Runoffs Formula F field, in order of finish.
1st place: Matthew Cowley - Team Pelfrey/Gap Guard - Mygale/Honda
2nd Place: Zach Holden - K-Hill Motorsports - Mygale/Honda
3rd Place: Jonathan Kotyk - Team Pelfry/Gap Guard - Mygale/Honda
4th Place: Chris Horan - steelfiber.com/Primus Racing - Van Diemen RF00/Honda
5th Place: Bob Perona - BPMS - Piper DF3D/Honda
6th Place: Steve Oseth - Quicksilver Race Engines - Mygale SJ15/Honda
7th Place: Ryan Bjerke - Raceworks - Spectrum 014H/Honda
8th Place: Yuven Sundaramoorthy - K Hill Motorsports - Mygale/Honda
9th Place: Ray Rivard - HIPPI Racing - Van Diemen RF99/Honda
10th Place: Brandon Lavender - Steering Creations - Van Diemen RF85/Ford
11th Place: David Livingston - ThermaMasters - Spectrum 14H/Honda
12th Place: Mike Sauce - Sportscar Performance - Sauce SVM1/Honda
13th Place: Sam Lockwood - Raceworks - Spectrum 014H/Honda
14th Place: Bill Kephart - Quasar Instruments - Vestial 09F/Honda
15th Place - Steve Meyer - RHR Racing - Piper DF05/Honda
16th Place - Brad Hayes - Fast Forward/Piper - Piper DL7/Honda
17th Place: Megan Sauce - Sportscar Performance - Swift DB6/Honda
18th Place: Randy Acock - Acock Engineering/Segars Race Prep - Van Diemen RF89/Honda
19th Place: Robert Gross - Avrill Racing Stuff - Piper DL7/Honda
20th Place: Donald Baggett - Benefit Resources Inc/Cricket Farms Motors - Swift DB6/Ford
21st Place: James Dietz - Polestar Racing/Honda/Lake Erie Gra - Van Diemen RF02/Honda
22nd Place: Kevin Brumbaugh - Van Diemen RF00/Honda
23rd Place: R. Lawrence Bangert - R&A Manufacturing - Swift DB1/Ford
24th Place: Jon Krolewicz - Swift DB3/Honda
25th Place: Mark Keller - Fabrication and Race Technology - Piper DF05/Honda
26th Place: Michael Bernstein - Swift DB6/Honda
27th Place: Jon Swanson - Van Diemen RF86/Ford
28th Place: Skip Streets - Hoosier - Piper DF05/Honda
29th Place: Allan Murray - Murray Motorsports - Swift DB1/Ford
30th Place: David Jalen - OverBudgetRacin - Swift DB1/Ford
31st Place: Tim Kautz - Braeburn/Hoosier/Two Dogg/Euroquipe - Piper DF3/Honda
32nd Place: Joel Haas - Parametric Solutions - Piper DF5/Honda
33rd Place: Rick Payne - Payton Pools/Red Line - Van Diemen RF99/Honda
34th Place: Derek Ketchie - G-Loc/Cricket Farms Motors - Swift DB1/Ford
35th Place: Andy Brumbaugh - Blackhound Creative Werks - Van Diemen RF98/Ford
36th Place - John Benson - Advanced Borehole Services - Swift DB3/Ford
Jon K - 1986 Swift DB3/Honda
Thanks Jon. Pretty impressive that Brandon Lavender put an 85 VD into tenth in that field!
Jim
Swift DB-1
Talent usually ends up in front, but fun goes from the front of the grid all the way to the back.
Seems to be first place of the Ford powered entries as well.
Here is my run from 5th to 5th
The last lap got pretty exciting...
https://youtu.be/lFCOb-MJSX4
Bob Perona
Wow! Yes, I guess it did.
Great video.
What about the first couple? GREAT demonstration of giving each other "racing room" but no quarter.
Glad you were able to finish with only one position lost in that incident.
Caldwell D9B - Sold
Crossle' 30/32/45 Mongrel - Sold
RF94 Monoshock - here goes nothin'
Bob,
How in the world did you get that rotating camera view? Do you actually have a PTZ camera mounted? The 'rolling shutter' issue seems to be related to a NON-solid mount to the roll bar, but considering the additional views it's worth it! You can't have PTZ without SOME freedom of movement... but WHO is controlling that camera? Are YOU doing that in addition to DRIVING the car?? Have 2 way control from someone in the paddock? Just how does that work?
Inquiring minds want to know.
BTW.. I agree with Tim .. GREAT driving and 'making room' where there is none.
Steve, FV80
Racing since '73 - FV since '77
After starting P15, I had a great battle with Brandon Lavender, David Livingston and Mike Sauce. It was close racing, a couple three-wides, and tough battling but it was great driving with these guys. It reminded me of the lead battle, but just a bit further back on the track! Thanks for the great time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znJrxwwaKIM&t=1876s
Ray, what camera are you using? Nice drive!
Thanks! I'm using a Samsung Gear 360 - 2017.
360fly 360-Degree HD Video Camera
....... even available at Walmart for under $200.
You use software to produce rotated video afterwards.
Greg Rice, RICERACEPREP.com
F1600 Arrive-N-Drive for FRP and SCCA, FC SCCA also. Including Runoffs
2020 & 2022 F1600 Champion, 2020 SCCA FF Champion, 2021 SCCA FC Champion,
2016 F2000 Champion, Follow RiceRacePrep on Instagram.
FF Runoffs
Brandon Good job. I know I had much fun. The 4 wide in to turn #1 was great and yes everyone was respectful of each other. I am liking the Honda as this was my first race with one. The car had not even turned a wheel until INDY let alone I have not raced much in 5 years. I was really rusty but I enjoyed it. I forgot how much fun I used to have.
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