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    Default Counterfeit Gear w/SFI labels

    Here we go again....
    http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1479137365

    I fear where this may go... Show up at the track with your gear and a tech inspector mis-identifies the labels on your gear.
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    Default Counterfeit labels

    It would have been nice if they had mentioned the "brand name" they were being used on !
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    Quote Originally Posted by kea View Post
    It would have been nice if they had mentioned the "brand name" they were being used on !
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    They don't/can't mention the manufacturers for threat of lawsuit. After all they are implying that gear is of sub-par quality and doesn't meet the spec. The SFI doesn't certify the product, as in all cases (legit or counterfeit patch) the manufacturer is making the claim. The fact that the manufacturer didn't pay SFI for the tag/patch doesn't make the claims any more or less true.

    The only thing that means is that the manufacturer didn't pay SFI for their patch/label.

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    They don't need to state whether the products are not legal or not, just that the labels were found on some of their products. A simple statement of fact !
    I guess if SCCA didn't do so many screwy things that they got sued over, they wouldn't be so nervous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kea View Post
    They don't need to state whether the products are not legal or not, just that the labels were found on some of their products. A simple statement of fact !
    I guess if SCCA didn't do so many screwy things that they got sued over, they wouldn't be so nervous.

    Ah, but it's not the SFI's product to attach the labels to.

    You can make a garment. You can declare that it exceeds the requirements of whatever SFI certification is applicable. You can then advertise that you (the manufacturer) declare that said garment exceeds the applicable certification standards. You can even use the SFI logo when doing so by the "nominative fair use" defense on trademark infringement. What you can't do is try to pass those labels off as those purchased from SFI.

    You are right about screwy things and getting sued, but at least they're learning...

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    Default Counterfeit Gear w/SFI labels

    It looks like the SCCA just copied and pasted a message from SFI and distributed it to the members. I'm not sure any ambiguity is SCCA's fault. A quick Google search didn't turn up much.

    I'm amazed at how fast China can get counterfeit products to market.


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    "I'm amazed at how fast China can get counterfeit products to market."

    Lots of practice, and in many cases, the same China manufactured product just sold as a "knockoff" at 1/10 the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLS View Post
    Lots of practice, and in many cases, the same China manufactured product just sold as a "knockoff" at 1/10 the price.
    What's worse, is that the manufacturer probably gets substantially more money for each of the knockoffs as the number of middlemen is fewer.

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    Default Cheap gear

    SFI said in the bulletin:
    "These were found on non-major brand equipment""

    SCCA is only the messenger in getting the bulletin out. It was sent out to all the clubs and probably dealers also.

    Daryl is correct in his above post. last scare a few months ago was suits being sold on e-bay for stupid cheap money. This time they at least they got the spelling Korrect.

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