FormulaF - Runoffs 2015

[jkrt125]

Wow,
someone mentioned Harvey's old car, having raced against him at Daytona, that is THE fastest FF in a straight line, ever! If you didn't get past him in the infield, say bye!

All you guys be careful at the bus stop during the race, sand on the exit will make for an exciting view of the oval wall!

[ragingti]

Has anybody tested 4 fronts vs normal setup same car, same session(conditions)? Just curious if the data proves it's faster...

[BWC54]

Has anybody tested 4 fronts vs normal setup same car, same session(conditions)? Just curious if the data proves it's faster...

You would have to be extremely fast to do it in one session since ride height and gearsets need to be changed.

[ericlangbein]

Wow, about 1.5 seconds faster then track records. How did Jeremy and Bill both pull those laps off on the last lap as they were 1.2 and 1.3 seconds faster then their previous best. Did they team up and draft together?

Yes- a little planning and some great execution by Jeremy and Bill!

[ragingti]

You would have to be extremely fast to do it in one session since ride height and gearsets need to be changed.

Forgot about the gear change...

[racingflyboy]

Marc Blanc wins the award for most creative bodywork, reminds me of the old Porsche Lemans "Long-Tails,"

Hmmm.... looks to me like there may have been something going on between Marc's Swift and Kephart's Vestal. Just sayin'............

[Frank C]

The top speeds of about 150 are impressive, but it also is interesting to see that the fastest laps don't go with the highest top speeds. What is the speed in the slowest corner? It seems like there could be some big gaps in the gears. How much time is spent on the banking versus in the infield on a lap?

Frank

[TimH]

Hmmm.... looks to me like there may have been something going on between Marc's Swift and Kephart's Vestal. Just sayin'............

That's why they have closed trailers...or maybe the car was just glad to see us.

[jharvey]

Who would have thought a FF going over 150, that's awesome! In the end the sector 3 times for the cars that reach 150+ is the same or slower than the cars running in the 140's. Top speed may be faster, but average time is slower. It also looks like sector 1 is pretty important. Should be a fun race to watch!

[Frank C]

That is what I was thinking. With big gear spreads, it might be easier to save seconds in the infield than on the banking or at least it is a trade off. It isn't just a matter of top speed.
Frank

[swiftdrivr]

I'm OOT, but might be able to get speedcast. Can anyone tell me when the race will flag off?

[Tom Valet]

I'm OOT, but might be able to get speedcast. Can anyone tell me when the race will flag off?

Jim the race is at 1:00 on Sunday

[swiftdrivr]

Thanks Tom

[Speed Sport Engineering]

The top speeds of about 150 are impressive, but it also is interesting to see that the fastest laps don't go with the highest top speeds. What is the speed in the slowest corner? It seems like there could be some big gaps in the gears. How much time is spent on the banking versus in the infield on a lap?

Frank

The trap speed is measured from the sf line to a point afterwards, i think. I believe the trap speed matches the previous lap time on the results.

[Tom Valet]

Reid's post asking what harm could come from posting info on tires made me think of this sign that is on Jim Little's toolbox, so I took a picture today:

[TimH]

Reid's post asking what harm could come from posting info on tires made me think of this sign that is on Jim Little's toolbox, so I took a picture today:

I've used that maxim many times...

[Purple Frog]

Tom,
Word is you guys (Drivers Services) switched from nitrogen to helium in your tires.

Polishing the bottom of the floor with electric buffers and waxing... give me a break.

[Art Smith]

That so much reminds me of Harvey Templeton's FF HR7260! Brings back memories.

anyone have any picture's of Harvey Templeton's FFord they could post ??

Art
artesmith@earthlink.net

[BURKY]

I heard Morgan is currently at a Indian Reservation doing a rain dance for sunday.

[Garey Guzman]

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[Garey Guzman]

anyone have any picture's of Harvey Templeton's FFord they could post ??

Art
artesmith@earthlink.net

Trying

[Garey Guzman]

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[Steve Bamford]

Not being a jerk, but what would it matter if someone posted what tires people are on? Those who could be helped by that information would just go walk up to the car on grid.

100% correct Reid, and everybody who has asked us that is here, we have told them what we are on. But I have gotten myself in trouble in the past by posting info that Drivers Services worked very hard to develop so I have just adopted the stance that I will not post any info until the race is over.

I'm with Tom on this one. I am seeing a lot of trick stuff. But folks are asking i not post, because some tricks are not known throughout the paddock. Handcuffs will be off after the race. Understandable, since folks have spent a lot of time testing, and running available weekends this yeR here to figure stuff out.

I probably have learned stuff Tom doesn't know, and he knows stuff i haven't picked up.

To really figure out the tires being used one must get real close. Maybe closd enough to read the little ingraved codes. Just saying Hoosier skinny won't tell you much.

That said, look at a car like JR2's... looks just like a normal kent/DB6 with fat tires. He just drives the wheels off it.

I agree with all parties & people such as much & Reid are interested to hear the stories sometime prior to the race which helps make us all feel more involved.

I don't usually look up the starting line of the Superbowl the day after the event. How about maybe a few hours before we get some updates as I can't see that harming anyone on the grid as there won't be enough time to make changes.

[Tom Valet]

Steve, the teams in the Super Bowl don't share their play books with their fans or their competitors though before the game starts. There are some things teams here are doing that could still be copied by others before Sunday.

But I understand where you are coming from. I will speak with Jim about what he will let us talk about.

[Earley Motorsports]

Is that tail legal? Am I reading the rules correctly where it says the maximum overhang of body behind the center of the rear axle is 80cm (31.49").

[Tom Valet]

Tom,
Word is you guys (Drivers Services) switched from nitrogen to helium in your tires.

Polishing the bottom of the floor with electric buffers and waxing... give me a break.

Frog, that is just the tip of the iceberg. We finished Q3 at 8:30 AM yesterday and the crew was still working on Wes and Bill's cars at 6:30 PM last night.

[Steve Bamford]

Steve, the teams in the Super Bowl don't share their play books with their fans or their competitors though before the game starts. There are some things teams here are doing that could still be copied by others before Sunday.

But I understand where you are coming from. I will speak with Jim about what he will let us talk about.

Thanks Tom & I was expecting someone to mention the play book in their reply back. Just interested in any info that is easily seen by other competitors already. I am sure I could answer many questions I have myself if I were there on what tires & other things people are running however unfortunately many of us can't be there.

[Matt King]

I can't see the harm in reporting on anything that any observant person walking through the paddock or grid area would clearly see.

[Swift17]

Steve, the teams in the Super Bowl don't share their play books with their fans or their competitors though before the game starts. There are some things teams here are doing that could still be copied by others before Sunday. [Quote Tom Valet]


Ummmm ... Where is Bill Belichick's Patriots and staff when you need them - secret video. special inflation rules, spying on the opposition ............

(......now back to work-at the office, ugh)

[Joefisherff]

Anyone else having problems getting the results to load?

[Hardingfv32]

Any back ground or story about the body reconfiguration of the Vestal Crane as compared to years past?

Brian

[John Merriman]

The photo of Harvey's FF car was taken at the SEBRING National in January of 1984. Although he was 75 years old then, he was still running close to the front. There were a lot of damn fast guys there that weekend including Jeff Andretti in a shiny new SWIFT DB-1.

[JLuxon]

Clutch performance by Tim

[reidhazelton]

Looked like Tim and Dave hooked up. Beginning that lap they were about a second apart, Dave leading, then to come back to the stripe Tim was ahead by a second or so according to RaceMonitor. Fun to watch.

All about the draft.

Marc wins the mph award at 154.48. Whoa.

[JLuxon]

154.48 MPH by Marc Blanc...incredible

Bill

[reidhazelton]

Kautz
Grenier
Valet
Robinson II
Livingston
Generotti
Benson
Mallinen
Hendrickson
Payne

That's the grid, or so I think.

[stonebridge20]

Marc wins the mph award at 154.48. Whoa.

And Stewart in a F5 at 158+

[Mike Scanlan]

Hats off to Tim on what appeared to be a slower track for everyone else. Nice job. Can't wait for Sunday.

[rmccown]

And Stewart in a F5 at 158+

Holy crap

[pwd911s]

Congrats on P1 Tim, all of us from the Blackhawk and Chicago Region wish we were down there for all the festivities and to root on the Formula F class.

The list of active viewers at the bottom of this forum is as thick and deep with talent as I’ve seen, To all viewing, using the helium really paid off, but the wax really hurts when you peel it off. My ass won’t be the same for a while. Don’t try this at home, no matter what frog suggests.

Remember “its just a place to start” - Gibb Gibson,

Have a great race Sunday!

PS:
If anyone is at the track this weekend please stop by the Honda tent and introduce yourself to an “up and coming" racer, Calvin Kautz, Tim’s youngest son. Keep him on your radar.