FormulaF - Runoffs 2015

[AVR_Shane]

From Race Monitor at the conclusion of Q1:

1) Kautz: 2:03.449
2) Mallinen: 2:03.839
3) Hendrickson: 2:03.999
4) Payne: 2:04.089
5) Robinson: 2:04.093
6) Grenier: 2:04.209
7) Melvin: 2:04.246
8) Generotti: 2:04.312
9) Benson: 2:04.452
10) Valet: 2:04.866

And for those curious: fastest F5 was Calvin Stewart with a 2:02.845. Next closest was 2:04.391

For those who don't know (myself included), what engines go along with the top 10? I can find chassis, but they don't necessarily say what engine

[Steve Bamford]

For those who don't know (myself included), what engines go along with the top 10? I can find chassis, but they don't necessarily say what engine

1. Kautz Honda
2. Mallinen Honda
3. don't know what Hendricksons runs
4. Payne don't know
5. Robinson II Kent
6. Grenier - Honda
7. Melvin - Honda
8. Generotti - Honda
9. Benson - Kent
10. Valet - Kent

Someone can fill in 3 & 4 as well as correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

[Mike Scanlan]

Larry has a Kent. Great run for him.

[Steve Bamford]

Larry has a Kent. Great run for him.

Who's Larry? Lawrence Hendrickson? If so & the race finished that way then my top 3 Honda prediction would be out the window.

How about Payne, what is he running & I can fix the list?

[reidhazelton]

Who's Larry? Lawrence Hendrickson? If so & the race finished that way then my top 3 Honda prediction would be out the window.

How about Payne, what is he running & I can fix the list?

Honda. And if it is the car I saw him in a few years ago that was the car converted by HPD. It was orange at the time, now it's blue.

[Steve Bamford]

1. Kautz - Honda
2. Mallinen - Honda
3. Hendrickson - Kent
4. Payne - Honda
5. Robinson II - Kent
6. Grenier - Honda
7. Melvin - Honda
8. Generotti - Honda
9. Benson - Kent
10. Valet - Kent

[flagman]

honda

[alangbaker]

1. Kautz Honda
2. Mallinen Honda
3. don't know what Hendricksons runs
4. Payne don't know
5. Robinson II Kent
6. Grenier - Honda
7. Melvin - Honda
8. Generotti - Honda
9. Benson - Kent
10. Valet - Kent

Someone can fill in 3 & 4 as well as correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

Rick Payne's Piper is a Honda, I'm pretty sure.

[Mike Scanlan]

Anyone know whether trap speeds are posted anywhere. I'm hearing rumored speeds approaching 150.

[reidhazelton]

Rick Payne's Piper is a Honda, I'm pretty sure.

I think Rick sold the Piper for the VD. I could be wrong, only met him once.

[reidhazelton]

Anyone know whether trap speeds are posted anywhere. I'm hearing rumored speeds approaching 150.

The one part of SCCA's 'live timing' that seemed to work was the trap speeds. At start/finish some were getting over 150, 151. I'd guess they would have a few more MPH before T1. Rick Payne was 153, but I expect that was in the draft. Looked like he was with Kautz for a few laps.

http://www.scca.com/live

Live timing used to be a RaceMonitor feed and it worked every time. SCCA seems to have 'fixed' it and now has some form of their own that hardly works.

[David Ferguson]

Anyone know whether trap speeds are posted anywhere. I'm hearing rumored speeds approaching 150.

The SCCA Live timing includes more car info (engine listed) as well as top speeds. A Formula F going 153.8 MPH, I wouldn't have believed it...

http://www.scca.com/live#session_6628

[Mike Scanlan]

Wow, 153.8, and it's listed as a Honda. Even more unbelievable is an F5 reaching 155.

[Steve Bamford]

Wow, 153.8, and it's listed as a Honda. Even more unbelievable is an F5 reaching 155.

Over sized gearing

[rick payne_75]

For those who don't know. The secret to me being faster than I have been before is Dan Campbell. He has been preparing my car since just after last year's runoffs. Yes the same Dan Campbell that designed and built the Vestal FF car.

[marshall9]

The SCCA Live timing includes more car info (engine listed) as well as top speeds. A Ford going 153.8 MPH, I wouldn't have believed it...

http://www.scca.com/live#session_6628

Hope everyone plays nice. Thats way fast if you get touched and sent into a wall in Tube frame car.

[Dave Welsh]

Q1 results

[reidhazelton]

Hope everyone plays nice. Thats way fast if you get touched and sent into a wall in Tube frame car.

Wait until you see what the FBs do....

[cliff]

any info on tires..i assume most up front are skinny all around, Hoosiers but maybe Avon's ...any radials...all 4 front radials...at those speeds stuff has to be rolling along pretty good

[helipilot04]

Very interesting that no Mygale's and only one Piper are entered?? It's nice to see the Kent back in the mix closer to the tip..

[Tom Valet]

Bill went faster than he expected today but then so did everybody else!

The name that really stands out to me is Larry Hendrickson. Into the 2:03s! For those who dont know him Larry is an "older" gentleman, one of the nicest guys around and he has been having a terrific racing year.

BTW Larry has a beautiful bright blue DB-6 with a Kent and I would bet he is on fat Hoosier rears but I could be wrong.

Congrats to Larry and everyone else. Good luck the rest of the week everyone.

[BURKY]

Bill went faster than he expected today but then so did everybody else!

The name that really stands out to me is Larry Hendrickson. Into the 2:03s! For those who dont know him Larry is an "older" gentleman, one of the nicest guys around and he has been having a terrific racing year.

BTW Larry has a beautiful bright blue DB-6 with a Kent and I would bet he is on fat Hoosier rears but I could be wrong.

Congrats to Larry and everyone else. Good luck the rest of the week everyone.

Not bad for 73!!!

[Tom Valet]

Not bad for 73!!!

So two old farts P1 and P3.

Sorry Tim, havent had the chance to bust your chops for a while.

[David Ferguson]

Wait until you see what the FBs do....

well, 167 mph on the first lap. That's amazing...

[Tom Valet]

Some Pepper Bowe photos from Sundays test day, open wheel session with some of the FFs shown.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1155365...85840191866114

[Steve Demeter]

One heck of a draft going on there.

I would worry about the big one.

Please be careful everyone.

[Purple Frog]

Hendrickson is being wrenched by James Lee.
fat tires
Morgan got bumped out on the first hot lap... so he has to stay to tomorrow.

[TimH]

Hey, I most like seeing a DB1 in P8. I wonder how he would do in a Vintage group..

[Purple Frog]

I watched Mondays qualifier and there was not any drafting to speak of.
i was expecting something like a f1600 pro race.

In the stands with Tim Kautz sunday, he said something to the effect, "Image the kids out here, they would kill each other!

[billwald]

Also really pleased to see Larry H doing well. We've raced with him for several years, a real gentleman, and continues to improve every year! I doubt I'll be in an open wheel race car at 70+ years old. And Kudos to James Lee Racing!!

Hope everyone has good luck and it's a fun close race for FF.

PS: Go Jim Morgan!

[Brian.Novak]

Over sized gearing

No. Aerodynamics.

[TimH]

I doubt I'll be in an open wheel race car at 70+ years old.!

One of our drivers is 80. Not the fastest, but nobody has more fun. He's my role model.

[Raceworks]

I watched Mondays qualifier and there was not any drafting to speak of.
i was expecting something like a f1600 pro race.

In the stands with Tim Kautz sunday, he said something to the effect, "Image the kids out here, they would kill each other!

Oh, I don't know. There was certainly enough stupid out there this morning.

[reidhazelton]

Oh, I don't know. There was certainly enough stupid out there this morning.

It's the Runoffs. Kind of goes without saying. I call it "I saw this on TV so I am going to try it knowing full well I have no practice doing so" syndrome.

[Swift17]

Hey, I most like seeing a DB1 in P8. I wonder how he would do in a Vintage group..

Thanks for the nice comment; that db-1/Kent chassis #19-85 is celebrating its 30th birthday - bought the year when the driver was born !!! ...a true long time "family member" ..........

[stonebridge20]

Oh, I don't know. There was certainly enough stupid out there this morning.

It's the Runoffs. Stupid always shows up at the Runoffs!

[PRS56]

I also wish to say that Larry Hendrickson is one heck of a nice guy and deserving of any sucess he can find at the Runoffs.
Larry was a PA resident and we were often at NE races together when both our cars were prepped by Leslie Racing.
Larry, Good luck and be safe out there!
Best Wishes,

Greg Kokolus
PRS #30

[marshall9]

I also wish to say that Larry Hendrickson is one heck of a nice guy and deserving of any sucess he can find at the Runoffs.
Larry was a PA resident and we were often at NE races together when both our cars were prepped by Leslie Racing.
Larry, Good luck and be safe out there!
Best Wishes,

Greg Kokolus
PRS #30

Go Larry !

[R. Pare]

well, 167 mph on the first lap. That's amazing...

What is really amazing so far is that while the FB lap times are slower than the FA's, their top speeds are higher!

[Dennis Valet]

What is really amazing so far is that while the FB lap times are slower than the FA's, their top speeds are higher!

I'd like to see the bus stop mid corner speeds for FA vs FB