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    Default 2015 - 21 Races

    Triple headers for 2015, plus a Florida winter trip

    2015 F1600 Championship Series Schedule:


    February 12-14 – Winter Exhibition @ Palm Beach*
    April 10-12 – Road Atlanta
    May 15-17 – Watkins Glen
    June 5-7 – VIR
    July 3-5 – Mid-Ohio
    July 31-Aug. 2 – Pittsburgh
    August 28-30 – New Jersey
    October 16-18 – Pittsburgh


    *Non-Points

    Of course the two dates at Pittsburgh are on their new fast and flowing 2.9 mile track, not the sub 1-minute short track.

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    Three races per weekend for F1600?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bam Bam View Post
    Three races per weekend for F1600?
    That just got expensive-er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bam Bam View Post
    Three races per weekend for F1600?
    Yes, the seven points weekends will be triple-headers.

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    Hey Monte - Do you know how this will affect the tire rule? Will it still be 6 tires, or are more added?

    Is there a separate qualifying, or will it be start-where-you-finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reidhazelton View Post
    Hey Monte - Do you know how this will affect the tire rule? Will it still be 6 tires, or are more added?

    Is there a separate qualifying, or will it be start-where-you-finished.
    I have no idea on all three points. News coming, I would imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reidhazelton View Post
    Hey Monte - Do you know how this will affect the tire rule? Will it still be 6 tires, or are more added?

    Is there a separate qualifying, or will it be start-where-you-finished.
    I have no direct info but this is my guess...no separate qualifying, starting for race 2 would likely be based on 2nd fastest qualifying lap time or best lap time in the race. Tire rule should stay at 6 as you are running the same number of sessions however there will be more stress on the tires. With that said keep in mind we are supposed to be going to a new Hoosier tire this season that is expected to last longer so that should help.

    As I said I have no direct info so could be different but this is my best guess. I am sure the series has a good plan & could/would make changes if needed. They have been very customer focused over the years to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty M View Post
    I have no idea on all three points. News coming, I would imagine.
    I hope it comes soon. I needed to start figuring budgets yesterday. Do you know if there's a series meeting at PRI this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceworks View Post
    I hope it comes soon. I needed to start figuring budgets yesterday. Do you know if there's a series meeting at PRI this year?
    Yes, Bob and Al will be at PRI to my knowledge and there will be a meeting as in previous years. Date and time TBD.

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    I imagine a lot depends on the tire testing and how that shakes out. Hell, maybe budgets will go down

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    No first-hand knowledge by any means, but the e-mail that arrived this morning states 14 races over 7 weekends, so that implies the "triple-header" is all three series run each weekend. Also looks like every weekend will be in conjunction with NARRA.

    But then reeding cmpreheshun never was my strong suit...
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    F2000 and Atlantic are seven weekends for 14 races (excluding Palm Beach).

    F1600 is seven weekends for 21 races (excluding Palm Beach).

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    Sorry - blew right past this in the e-mail:

    = = = = = =

    For the regular season, all three Championships will be together on the seven race weekends. F2000 and Atlantic will each have a 14-race season composed of seven doubleheader events, compared to seven triple-headers for F1600, making up a 21 race calendar.

    = = = = = =

    That's a LOT of races on a given weekend!
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    It will be a busy weekend for drivers & crews that's sure. Plenty of race experience to be gained with this for the up & coming youngsters. Everyone better up their pre season workouts as you will be tired after three thirty minute races in less then 36 hours.
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    Or five races in 36 hours for some.

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    I think Steve is buying an 016 so he can get 7 races in....

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    Are the races still sanctioned by SCCA Pro? I see the events will be run with NARRA but does that change their involvement. 14 year old drivers in SCCA Pro racing?

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    I spoke to Bob this afternoon. Tire testing will be Monday and Tuesday. The series will then make a decision on the tire rule for 2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Valet View Post
    I think Steve is buying an 016 so he can get 7 races in....
    Once they develop a longer lasting engine we can consider it...in all seriousness I think the three races in 1600 will be a real test for teams & drivers. I expect to struggle come the last race of the weekend "if" I run F2000 as well.

    The first, well actually now the one qualifying 1600 session for the weekend will be even more important.
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    I would think this will make crash damage more painful as well. Out for 3 points races instead of two. Maybe that's a good thing!?

    It's an interesting balance between maximizing track time per haul and allowing time to change or fix things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bam Bam View Post
    ...in all seriousness I think the three races in 1600 will be a real test for teams & drivers. I expect to struggle come the last race of the weekend "if" I run F2000 as well....
    In my experience gathered from running in Nelson Ledges "Longest Day" and other 24-hour endurance races, I ALWAYS got significantly faster with less effort as the races progressed. Having a lot more time in the car at a given track is, IMO, a major benefit for those of us who don't optimize driving a track in a few laps. Being tired from more track time was (and still is) not a factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
    In my experience gathered from running in Nelson Ledges "Longest Day" and other 24-hour endurance races, I ALWAYS got significantly faster with less effort as the races progressed. Having a lot more time in the car at a given track is, IMO, a major benefit for those of us who don't optimize driving a track in a few laps. Being tired from more track time was (and still is) not a factor.
    Dave W,

    You are certainly not the average racer by any stretch, just look at your resume.

    I have seen many drivers make mistakes later in races when they are mentally tired as well as possibly physically tired. Some drivers simply don't have that issue which I have seen you be one of those as I recall two years ago running with you at Road Atlanta.

    As for track time, it will still be the same amount of time as they are eliminating a qualifying session to replace with a race session. No resting during a race session compared to slowing down for a lap or so in qualifying along with pitting for possible adjustments. That will make the difference to me at least.
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    Thanks, Steve.

    And I'm sure you will learn how to handle the extra race(s) to your benefit.
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