SCAM Alert: Please Read

[ewcmr2]

Good tip, my e-mail wasn't in The WTB post. "David Hill" could have searched and found my email in a year old for sale post (now edited out) or he has snuck past the gatekeeper...

[dc]

That he did... I found his account and have since banned him and reported his e-mail address as an international spam account.

[dc]

Here's one more for the list... a guy going by the name of John Morgan (john.morgan180@yahoo.com) is trying to buy items from ApexSpeed members for more than the asking price, to "give you a little extra for your efforts" for shipping to him overseas. Sending anything to anyone like this is paramount to lighting your money on fire. Don't do it! He's not a forum member, and I guarantee your "check" will be a fake.

[Rick Iverson]

This is in reference to a wanted add for midyear rear uprights:

Hello Buddy,

I am emailing with respect to your advert. Please let me know if you are still in need of the above and I'll get back to you. What's your phone #?

Kind regards,

Frank B Flores
Flores Spares Outlet
Chino, CA
USA

I googled Flores Spares Outlet, and the 'fraud' hits just kept on coming. It was then my intention to put a bug so far up his ass that he wouldn't know whether to s**t or wind his watch with a potential fraud sale. I emailed him back asking for photos, and that I preferred PayPal over other choices, but intimated Western Union was acceptable (NOT). He replied with this:

Hello Rick;

Thanks for writing. I have a PayPal account, but mine is linked to my wife's bank account and she's currently on vacation, otherwise PayPal is usually my preference. But you have no problems at all payment through Western Union or Moneygram . They have an outlet close to me and once payment is confirmed, I'll complete shipping and email you a tracking number. I also got a hold of your complete shipping address and it has been noted down for shipment, kindly confirm below:

Rick Iverson
xxx xxxxx xxxx
East Gull Lake MN 56401
(xxx) xxx-xxxx

Once I get a confirmation of your shipping address, I'll email you my payment information for payment.

Many thanks again and regards,

Flores

I do not know where these clowns get their idea of common sense, up their butts I'll bet.

[schiconst]

FYI, I just got an E mail from a guy in England who said he had gears I need. He said he was a member of Apex but has not given me his user name. Luckily I saw this post from all of you guys and have not sent money. He wanted a money gram. His name is David Peterson. Supposedly! his e mail is davixx025@gmail.com John

[dc]

Thanks, he'll be escorted to the door.

We're getting to the point where we will stop allowing new registrations from the UK if this goes on much longer.

[Steve Demeter]

FYI, I just got an E mail from a guy in England who said he had gears I need. He said he was a member of Apex but has not given me his user name. Luckily I saw this post from all of you guys and have not sent money. He wanted a money gram. His name is David Peterson. Supposedly! his e mail is davixx025@gmail.com John

Got an e mail from the same guy who has 3 longacre scale heads available for 250 pounds each delivered to my door.

Thought he sounded a bit suspicious since he took several days to send me pics and then sent another e mail pressing me to make a purchase.

[Rick Iverson]

1. A photo of the item with a note showing the current date;

2. PayPal only - period.

[DB4 Tim]

I tired Craigs list for about a month....did not have one legit sale but got hit daily with the scams, so I started using the below address and a few helpful hints and well the idiots sent a number of checks to them. That scam is where they buy your item for 1 or 2K above the selling price of 100 dollars then you deposit the check and send them back money....then of course your bank nails you because the check is bad, what could possibly go wrong with that scam....I had to get a little creative for a name that ties into FBI

Frank B Investa
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001
(202) 324-3000

[northarrowracing]

Add another name to the scam alert list.
David Dione, ddione434@gmail.com from the UK just sent me an e-mail in response to my search for an oil tank. The e-mail was very generic without even mentioning what I was looking for and I could not find him as an Apex member. Thinging it was just a fishing trip so in the trash it went.

Ric C

[apalvee]

I was in search of parts to rebuild my Royale RP 33.
A guy sended me a mail and answered directly to my demand.
I 've send € 500 with money transfer.
Pay attention , this guy is very very slim. More that me.
No news since payment....and no parts for sure.

He used a pseudo ' Richards Powell'
His mail was 'rich 95556@gmail.com

He will certainly comme back. I think from UK, not sure.

best regards,
Etienne

[BURKY]

Add another name to the scam alert list.
David Dione, ddione434@gmail.com from the UK just sent me an e-mail in response to my search for an oil tank. The e-mail was very generic without even mentioning what I was looking for and I could not find him as an Apex member. Thinging it was just a fishing trip so in the trash it went.

Ric C

He's still at it... Just sent me a email, trying to sell me a nose.

[riderxracer]

A person calling himself Patrick Watson , pat963465@gmail.com responded to my WTB for FE parts. Same mo as all the others. Response said Boston, UK but who knows.

Buyers beware!

Lee

[Monte]

I too got an email from Patrick Watson regarding a WTB 10:31 ring and pinion for a LD200. He said his pay pal account was down and he could take moneygram. Then he sent me a pic of a ring and pinion and it was black. Now maybe it starts off black but the best part was that he said " I wiped it down with some kind of oil to keep it from rusting" That's the best....."some kind of oil".......Baby oil? Canola?

He then wanted a premium price of 200 GBP for it......that's a hell of a deal.....at about a fifth of the price...

Beware

Chris M

[bonedome]

I, too, recently got an e-mail from "Patrick Watson" in England wanting to sell me a complete gear set for my LD200. In the photos I counted 23 sets and given the average price of $175.00 for a used gearset, that would mean his collection was worth $4025.00.....and he was offering it to me for $1,000.00! Can you say "suspicious"? Sure, I knew you could...lol...
This guy actually answered a question I posed to him/her/it/whatever.
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[DB4 Tim]

Is lynching still outlawed

[Earley Motorsports]

I got one from him too on the dog rings I was looking for
Graham.

[Terry Hanushek]

Mr Watson may not be completely on the up and up but he does seem to be thorough

T

[dc]

If you post his e-mail address, it not only will turn up in future Google searches, but I can cross-reference it to see if he actually snuck a forum account by me and is a member here.

[Monte]

pat963465@gmail.com is the email I had from him


CM

[dc]

Nope, not a forum member. Which means if he responded to a Want-Ad from you guys, you had your e-mail in the listings. Always safer to have people contact you through PMs than e-mail, if possible. We do our best to keep away the scammers and spammers, and your odds are less of having a problem through the forums. Not perfect, but better odds.

[bonedome]

That's how it was. He contacted me through my own e-mail, not here.

[Paul Redstone]

Patrick Watson <pat963465@gmail.com> emailed me about a want-ad I had posted on Apex Speed. He did not seem knowledgeable, just enthusiastic about getting money from me. This is the second time I have been contacted about a want-ad. Some months ago this happened, but the name was different, Eric Chapman or something like that. Anyway, he also said he was from the UK. As this is the second time someone has tried to steal from me, I knew I should say something. Apparently the racing community is large enough to have our own sleaze bags. That may not be new to many, but it is disappointing.

[Steve Demeter]

These guys are probably not members of any racing community, but rather sleaze bags trying to separate us from our money by trolling the internet for want ads. The guy who wanted to sell me a scale head had two different ones that were not even real Longacre model numbers. Or so he said.

[Brian Linn]

Patrick Watson <pat963465@gmail.com> emailed me about a want-ad I had posted on Apex Speed.

I got a reply from a Patrick Watson to my WTB ad - seemed sketchy when he asked for my phone# and he's in the UK. He didn't say that he had the air horns I was looking for, but he could "help me with my Wanted Ad".

[dc]

These guys are probably not members of any racing community, but rather sleaze bags trying to separate us from our money by trolling the internet for want ads. The guy who wanted to sell me a scale head had two different ones that were not even real Longacre model numbers. Or so he said.

This.

A lot of these guys will pop up on other car/enthusiast boards with the same offers. If you go back and look at some of the early red flags in this thread, those guys were found on BMW, Porsche and other car boards with the same scam.

Many of the hits that have actually come from registered forum users supposedly were in the UK, but their IPs pointed to locations in Africa or elsewhere. Anyone not registered used e-mails that could be picked off of the forums without having to be a registered member.

We do as much as we can to keep the trouble to a minimum, but they do manage to still strike if given the opportunity.

[gt5racer]

Another scammer.

I received this in response to my WTB Steering Wheel:

Hi, I have the required item(s) as listed and you can let me know if
you are in need of others. I can call or txt if you don't mind. What's
your phone number?

Cheers,
Oscar Davis
United Kingdom.

Oscar Davis od774138@gmail.com

He does not even reference what I am looking for.

[bonedome]

Wow....I got an identical message from same guy last night regarding a diffuser.

[formulasuper]

Wow....I got an identical message from same guy last night regarding a diffuser.

Probably has learned to copy & paste his message to save time.

[fv31]

i have a persistent one......this is my last communication to him.

wow! you're an especially hard headed one! i've already said i think you're a scammer and you keep on hitting away at it. consequently, due to your lack of intelligence, i have decided to double my price to 16400 dollars. i will not take paypal, euros, or american dollars. your agent can bring me gold bullion. it will be somewhere around 12.8 ounces...but since you're pretty dim and can't figure out that I know you're a scammer....let's call it an even 13 ounces. in lieu of gold, I will accept a comparable amount in certified moon rocks.

[racerdad2]

Sadly, scammers, cons, low-lifes learn early on that persistence pays.... It's a good life lesson put to bad use...

Now, If the Royal Prince of Nigeria would just send me my Lotto Jackpot winnings ! My $10k check for 'processing & verification' has already cleared my bank !

[JRL]

Just received this for my car. This was 6 hours after I sent the info.
John Lindsay

Thanks for your quick and prompt response to my email, I am interested and I am okay with the price. I would want you to get back to me with your contact details where you would want payment issued and mail ed out to you in this manner.

FIRST NAME............
LAST NAME.............
Your Address:.........
Your City:............
Your State:...........
Your Zip Code:........
Your Country:.........
Your Home Phone Number:............
Your Mobile Phone Number:............


You do not have to worry about shipping as I would have my shipping agency that handles all my shipping come to your location after payment has reached you for the pick up.


I would be expecting to hear back from you with the requested information so as payment to be issued and mailed out to you as soon as possible. Hope to hear back from you soonest. Thanks



Regards,
Mr. Chris Jones.
Mobile Phone: +447035973961
Office Phone: +447035975858

[john f]

could it be legit???

john f

[racerdad2]

Hmmmm. Country Code 44 is United Kingdom & Isle of Man. The grammar is odd.... I'd call from a blocked phone & check it out. My guess is scammer... however, worth a phone call... if it seems legit, I'd call the local constables for some feedback. ..

[racerdad2]

BTW, get all his info & give none of yours. If he's legit, he will welcome the scrutiny.

[Charles Warner]

What car are you selling?

[Earley Motorsports]

There is a number that is close to that one 68 instead of 58 that is associated to a scam out of Nigeria. Probably the same dudes backing terrorisim.

[sc94]

Here's a little info about the area code they provided.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_in_t...e_703?#slide=2

[Numbskull XIV]

Its a scam, I have gotten this many times selling on Craig's list.

[JRL]

It is definitely a scam. A friend in the UK has UK got the same one for his car .
The tip off was that I sent a picture of the pedal area separately and got this response

Send me the final price of the Sadler Pedals

Regards,
Mr. Chris Jones.
Mobile Phone: +447035973961
Office Phone: +447035975858

I am selling a Sadler Formula Junior

John Lindsay