Swift 016a in Autocross?

[Siberian64]

I'm thinking of running my 016a in autocross at Qualcomm stadium in San Diego...

I was thinking going wingless (like FF) since I fear damaging the front wing...

Has anyone run an 016a in autocross? Thoughts?

- Steve

[BURKY]

I think somebody need's there fix.

[Stan Clayton]

I'm thinking of running my 016a in autocross at Qualcomm stadium in San Diego...

I was thinking going wingless (like FF) since I fear damaging the front wing...

Has anyone run an 016a in autocross? Thoughts?

- Steve

Steve, we've had very good luck with our A-Mod and B-Mod wing package in autocross. It's all-carbon and holds up very well to the stresses of autocross. Drop me a line if you'd like to discuss.

Here's the front kit in the curing oven...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34403391@N07/8685213270/

[KevinFirlein]

you did say thats a * front * wing correct ? Gotta love autocross aero packages.

[Stan Clayton]

you did say thats a * front * wing correct ? Gotta love autocross aero packages.

Yeah...you can see more pics here.

[provamo]

what is the anticipated median velocity?

[Stan Clayton]

what is the anticipated median velocity?

About 70 mph...

[provamo]

HOLY COW Stan! ............does the driver wear a G-suit?

[Siberian64]

Now that's some surface area!!!

[griceiv]

HOLY COW Stan! ............does the driver wear a G-suit?

nope.

[Stan Clayton]

Now that's some surface area!!!

Your 016 goes in the B-Mod class, where the aero rules are both more liberal AND more restrictive. In A-Mod cars are restricted to 20 sq-ft plan-view wing area, but that 20 ft can be divided any way you like, so the car pictured here has 70" wing spans at the rear and about 44" at the front.

Open wheel B-Mod cars (FA, FB, FC, etc.) are restricted at the rear to FA span (110 cm...~43") plus 2.75" gurneys on each endplate, and a max height of 45" (vs 39" in FA). But at the front the wings are allowed to be as wide as the widest part of the front tires (about 76" in your case!), so there is plenty of scope for lots of downforce.

[Neil_Roberts]

I suspect that the biggest problem you will have is the noise limit at San Diego autocrosses. It's much lower than most places.

Several of the joints on the 016.a were designed to be structural fuses so that the expensive bits could be re-used after replacing the cheap connections between them. The front and rear hoop flanges for the wing mounts are one example of this approach. It was quite common in the pro series for a wing to get knocked off, the flanges replaced, and the wing used again. Hitting a cone at BM autox speed should not damage the wing.

In case you were wondering, I did a lot of the design work on that car.

[Raneff5]

Your 016 goes in the B-Mod class, where the aero rules are both more liberal AND more restrictive. In A-Mod cars are restricted to 20 sq-ft plan-view wing area, but that 20 ft can be divided any way you like, so the car pictured here has 70" wing spans at the rear and about 44" at the front.

Open wheel B-Mod cars (FA, FB, FC, etc.) are restricted at the rear to FA span (110 cm...~43") plus 2.75" gurneys on each endplate, and a max height of 45" (vs 39" in FA). But at the front the wings are allowed to be as wide as the widest part of the front tires (about 76" in your case!), so there is plenty of scope for lots of downforce.

Dont forget the 8 sqft Plan-form for BM, much much smaller than AM.

An FA would be very fun in BM, but I highly doubt it would be fast. Theyre just too big.

[Stan Clayton]

Dont forget the 8 sqft Plan-form for BM, much much smaller than AM.

The 8 sqft doesn't apply to open wheel cars in B-Mod...only to sports racers.

[Raneff5]

The 8 sqft doesn't apply to open wheel cars in B-Mod...only to sports racers.

Wow, I did not know that. Just checked the rules, you are correct! Seems to me that one could do some interesting things there with an open wheeler.

[Siberian64]

Thanks to all for the inputs -

I was originally thinking that I could get some low risk cheap thrills but this has seemed to become a bit more interesting...

I guess I was less concerned about hitting cones (and I will hit alot at first!!!) than banging the front wing on the uneven pavement...

[kjchristopher]

HOLY COW Stan! ............does the driver wear a G-suit?

I do wear a fire suit, since I'm mixing boost and fuel injection. Here is a video from Sunday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVN2XgmrMJs

Oh, I did cut a cone almost in half on Saturday. Seem to hold up quite well!