READ: American Spirit Racing & Jon Lewis

[KenT]

http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/for...17/scope/posts

Appears to be selling the MK quick lifts he got from them for sponsorship. Were those supoosed to be given to the winners or were they his to keep and sell?

[Dave Welsh]

I did a web search for 2010 28' Renegade Trailer and found the following.

http://rvs.oodle.com/detail/2010-ren...-www-_-NA-_-NA

It is the same photo on Jon's Flickr post.

And it is here.

http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/rvs/3311839986.html

And here

http://www.ac-tnol.com/2012/11/21/20...t-myers-16000/

[Mike Devins]

Wren as a child actor? Relentless!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF_Vo4B6Ms

[starkejt]

It would be a terrible shame if someone signed his phone number up to receive a prayer call from the Jehovah's Witnesses (jw.org, for reference) at 3:00 AM.

[R. Pare]

The lawyers can chime in here, but I believe that Jon would be legally obligated to use any proceeds from the trailer sale (assuming that it actually belongs to him and wasn't a loaner from renegade) and any other equipment that belonged to the series to pay off the prize money obligations.

What kind of lien, if any, can those owed monies put on this sort of equipment?

[starkejt]

I'm guessing he is pretty good at hiding behind the corporate veil. The guy has countless LLCs, so good luck putting one entity on the hook for the debts of another just because the same guy has an interest in both. I get the feeling he is pretty good at scamming by now.

[Richard Dziak]

Back to my old posing a few months ago......

Anyone in Florida who got burned financially from this guy can sue in Florida Small Claims court, recovery is up to $5000. Judgment is based on a preponderance of the evidence.

You don't need an attorney to file, just a process server or good friend to serve the summons on him.

Minimal costs to file the suit, and filing fees and court costs can be recovered in a favorable judgment to the petitioner.

Hard part is collecting the judgment against him.

Some food for thought.

[Wren]

Wren as a child actor? Relentless!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF_Vo4B6Ms

Nah, it only takes about 10 minutes out of my day to help make people aware of him and his scams. A little bit of google-fu and a phone call is all that it takes.

I've got some new ideas to contact over the next few days, so that should be fun.

It would be a terrible shame if someone signed his phone number up to receive a prayer call from the Jehovah's Witnesses (jw.org, for reference) at 3:00 AM.

I'm not really interested in trolling him, I really believe that it is possible to prevent him from ever doing business in motorsports again.

[starkejt]

Nah, it only takes about 10 minutes out of my day to help make people aware of him and his scams. A little bit of google-fu and a phone call is all that it takes.

I've got some new ideas to contact over the next few days, so that should be fun.




I'm not really interested in trolling him, I really believe that it is possible to prevent him from ever doing business in motorsports again.

Henceforth, your custom user title shall be "White Knight." Go, and make the change.

[Northwind]

I second that.

[Wren]

Henceforth, your custom user title shall be "White Knight." Go, and make the change.

I think it is more important to let people know that I am not an aerodynamicist. White Knighting usually involves protecting other people where you don't have any business. That doesn't apply here. My personal dislike for Jon drives this.

Also, it appears that Jon has just blocked me from seeing any of his activity on facebook. I can't see his comments on other people's posts or his posts on the pirelli world challenge page. I can still see it if I look from another browser that I am not logged in on, so it isn't really stopping anything.

I have gotten some new ideas for people to contact from the Pirelli facebook page though.

[starkejt]

Compromise: "Not a White Knight"

[Daryl DeArman]

If he makes it out to SoCal and somebody wants me to serve him I will volunteer my services. I am not a professional process server but I recently managed to serve somebody that really didn't want to be served and had been dodging others for awhile. I was able to serve him on my first attempt. It was a bit of a kick to serve that particular jack-hole.

[DMac]

Do you think that means that we can't expect the money soon?

I didn't have time to call Renegade today, that will just give me something to look forward to tomorrow. I wonder if he has a title for that trailer?

I have no idea. Keep it up regardless. He should not be given a chance to fleece someone else.



I bet he is selling it with a bill of sale...

[JohnPaul]

If we all chip in $10 (or whatever we can afford) I have a great attorney down here that I know and trust that would sue the crap out of this joker on the racers behalf (and scca, sponsors etc). I can set it all up. I think with $2500 to start I can get him to do it. Probably won't get anything out of him since it doesn't look like he has anything but at least there would be a judgement and if he ever did make money it would be garnished. Also, it would be on offical record that he is scam artist con man.
I'll start by pledging $100

[Zcurves]

JP if that idea gains traction, I'll donate to the cause.

We should tally what he owes everyone. Next time someone asks when he plans to pay, they should list the prize fund owed to everyone not individual amounts. That will really give others an idea how badly he screwed us.

[a. pettipas]

Kazis might be on to something here (not the hit man part). If we all chip in $10 (or whatever we can afford) I have a great attorney down here that I know and trust that would sue the crap out of thie joker on the racers behalf (and scca, sponsors etc). I can set it all up. I think with $2500 to start I can get him to do it. Probably won't get anything out of him since it doesn't look like he has anything but at least there would be a judgement and if he ever did make money it would be garnished. Also, it would be on offical record that he is scam artist con man.
I'll start by pledging $100

Future revenue would be directed through another of his LLCs, as Josh already pointed out; he wouldn't do business again through the same company that controlled the F1k series, he's evidently not an amateur thief.

[dc]

I realize that there is a lot of distaste and animosity towards Jon, but we absolutely will not tolerate threats of violence towards anyone on ApexSpeed. By our rules here, it is grounds for banning of any user who dips into this unnecessary territory.

The offending posts here have been removed without any action now, but any further threats towards Jon Lewis or anyone else will be grounds for immediate removal from ApexSpeed.com without warning. I will absolutely will not tolerate this at any level.

[RussMcB]

I realize that there is a lot of distaste and animosity towards Jon, but we absolutely will not tolerate threats of violence towards anyone on ApexSpeed. By our rules here, it is grounds for banning of any user who dips into this unnecessary territory.

Doug, if you think ths post dips into unnecessary territory, then I'll have to kick your ass.


Oops. Just kidding.

[Zcurves]

My comment was mostly in jest but I can see how it would be taken as serious. I'll be a good, law abiding citizen from now on.

I already had a car, but I spent well over $50K to upgrade my tow vehicle and trailer in preparation for the long hauls required by his scam. I'm not a crew member or friend of a friend, I'm a competitor. OBTW, he was happy to take my $3,500 in entries and owes me $4,250 in prize and tow funds, as well as two events that I paid for and did not receive. So you hit the nail on the head in regards to "distaste and animosity" towards Jon.

I have an MKT rear lift and can definitely identify that as one of Marty's. I wonder what he thinks about Jon selling the lifts for profit?

[Kazis31]

My bad.
I meant it more with humorous tone than actual tread.

[dc]

Jokes or real, if he winds up dead in a ditch for whatever reason, and there is discussion like that here on the forums, the FBI comes and knocks on MY door first. I don't need ApexSpeed or myself personally accountable for that sort of mess.

[KenT]

PS. I have one of those MK rear lifts and an MK under wing lift if anyone wants one. very little use. Buy it from me for the same price as Jon's before you buy it from him. It'll go to a more power sim computer.

[Kazis31]

I apologize if my tread offended or endangered anyone.
Like i said previously it was more in joking tone ,kind of old school mobster talk.
Not that I'm mobster or anything....
Dough....
Now I've done it....
You see what happens when political correctness and dictatorship marries...lol


Just kidding.
I'm sorry if i caused Doug any hardship...
Or Apex Speed....
Dough.....

Ease up ,Doug Christmas is coming.I'll make it up to Apex speed with good donation.

Cheers.

[Northwind]

Holiday Specials now available

[Brett Lane]

I too must apoplgize. My thread was removed, although I didn't threaten anyone. I just mentioned what happened to someone with a very similar business ethic.

May be not the right place for that kind of story...My bad.

Merry Christmas
Happy Hannukah
Kool Kuanza
etc.

[dc]

I removed any posts that had even remotest hint of a threat against anyone, or referred to any previous posts that did.

No worries, it's all good.

[RussMcB]

You missed post #219. It had a remotest hint of a threat against someone.

And this post refers to it, so you can delete this one, too.

You're welcome. Glad I can help.

[RussMcB]

Sometimes it's too hard to read something and just let it go ...

[Wren]

do it

[reidhazelton]

Russ McBride for President!

Second the motion to "do it".

All in favor....

[Northwind]

BRAVO

Encore. Encore, Russ.

[RussMcB]

Did it like Wren.

[Wren]

The secret is to post follow up messages to other people's posts that Jon Lewis has commented on. Everyone who has commented or "liked" that post gets an email with your text in it and Jon cannot delete the original post to make your comment go away.

[Alex Pate]

The secret is to post follow up messages to other people's posts that Jon Lewis has commented on. Everyone who has commented or "liked" that post gets an email with your text in it and Jon cannot delete the original post to make your comment go away.

It's amazing you have time to build such a fast racecar with all the trolling you get done.
Lol keep it up

[Wren]

It's amazing you have time to build such a fast racecar with all the trolling you get done.
Lol keep it up

You've met me. Do you really think that I am the brains behind our operation?

My responsibilities are:
1. Help drive the truck
2. Help fasten belts
3. Stand around and look pretty

That leaves lots of time for trolling. Also, I'm on travel for work this week.

[glenn cooper]

That's so impressive as to basically make my week.

Wren 2 outta 3?

[Wren]

Coop, are you implying that I don't help drive the truck?

[SOseth]

You've met me. Do you really think that I am the brains behind our operation?

My responsibilities are:
1. Help drive the truck
2. Help fasten belts
3. Stand around and look pretty

That leaves lots of time for trolling. Also, I'm on travel for work this week.

Wren, I've seen you. Your Mother may love you but you ain't pretty.

SteveO

[Wren]

I don't understand. What are you saying?