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    Default Very Basic FST Questions

    [FONT=Calibri]]Ok here we go, this is my first posting as a newbie to your forum I hope I am not going to basic for you.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Calibri] I am converting a Adams FV to a FST, well at least I am trying to, and I have two very basic questions to start with.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Calibri]1 Does switching to the ball joint beam change the wheel base at all?[/FONT]
    [FONT=Calibri]2 Since I need a new fuel cell what is the recommendation for the size of a fuel cell to install, 3 or 5 gallons? [/FONT]
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    Welcome to FST Sam.

    There are a couple of people in your area that can give good advice as well as this forum.

    1. I don't believe there will be a difference in wheelbase. You do get 2 extra inches in FST.
    2. 5 gallons is the way to go. The 1600cc engine is a bit more thirsty compared to a vee.

    Good luck with your conversion and remember the only dumb question is the one you didn't ask.

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    Default in cinci

    Sam there are two long term FST competitors in Cincinnati. I'd the free advice spigot is open.

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    Default Welcome Sam!

    I'm out on the West side of Cincy a little North of Harrison.

    The ball joint beam has to change wheel base some. I'm pretty sure the "turkey legs" are longer. The ball joint beam certainly changes the track width as well. Its also a TON easier to set up than a link pin beam!

    The 1600 engine uses more fuel than the 1200. You'll want a 5 gal cell.

    Feel free to send me a note through Apexspeed anytime you want.

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    Does anyone have a measurement of the space from stock beam back to the center of the axles when the legs are level on both a ball joint and link pin?

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    This is one of those measurements that is so hard to measure .... then project wheelbase from ..... when factoring in all the variables like ride-height, beam inclination, toe settings, etc.

    My car was, 91 5/16 from the center of the lower beam tube to the center of the rear axle (rear measured at width of beam). The wheelbase was 84 3/16.

    This was with 3/4" of beam angle, top of upper beam at 13 1/2, and 3/16 rear toe-in.
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    A.

    In looking at the Evolution frame in my garage (its not so easy to make this measurement alone) its 86 inches from the middle of the top trans mount bolt to the face of the beam mount lower bolt. Larry Campbell appears to have built a 3 degree slant into the beam mount on the front of the frame. Hence I measured from the bottom to get you the longest measurement.

    This should be a rough guide. Feel free top come over and we take more measurements
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamF View Post
    Does switching to the ball joint beam change the wheel base at all?
    The difference is minimal (if any at all). The Adams in FV trim was not right at the maximum wheelbase limit for FV, so even if you add two inches to the chassis for FST, you'll be just fine.
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    Default fuel cell question

    Thank you all for your input; I seem to have found the fountain of FST knowledge. I have much to learn.

    As far as the fuel cell do any of you see a problem with using an ATL RA105 on the bottom of page 13 of ATL's catalog? http://www.atlinc.com/pdfs/Racing/20...g-web%2013.pdf

    [FONT=Arial][FONT=Verdana]Per my thoughts of the GRC it should be OK if I make the appropriate metal enclosure for it. It will fit in the Adams and give the recommended 5 gallons.[/FONT] [/FONT]

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    Hi Sam...

    Glad to see another Adams is being converted. It's still one of my favorite Vee's!

    Check your PM's.

    Cheers!
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    Default FST questions

    Although I cannot answer any Adams questions,I'll be glad to be of any assistance if I can.I live in the Mt Healthy area of Cincinnati and have a caracal conversion.
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    Thanks Dave, I am in West Chester so not so far from you. It is good to know there rre at least 2 other's with FSTs in the area

    Sam

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    Default FIA approved cell

    Perhaps someone else with more expertise can provide definitive advice. However, I'd bet the cell you mention is not SCCA legal.

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