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If they cared about F1000 having a competitive place to run they would have put us back where we came from FC.

With F1000 required to run the same tire and wheel combination .
Either require...

That was the pathway to a Runoffs class . You were grouped with a faster class until you reached the numbers to ask for Runoffs recognition . The Runoffs requirements have been a numbers game forever...

The numbers will be out months before 2020 so they will either back off on the elimination or you will have plenty of leverage to get them to.





I’ve raced enough SCCA Alphabet Soup...

It's automatic in the GCR if you meet th 4.0 participation rule you are invited to the Runoffs .


Per SCCA General Competition Rules (GCR) Section 3.7.4.C: All classes with a combined two-year...

FB is not being removed as a Runoffs class before the 2019 results are known .



We are basically on probation this year and will removed as a Major class next year. Every Major class has to...

I might possibly be one .I requested a one off reclassification for my FB into FA with an engine off of the P2 engine table a while back but have only been told that my request will be in the next...

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The "safety issue" with tube frame cars is the same as with composite cars. It has to do with the front crush structures. If that part functions properly, there is...

We already run most places including the Runoffs with FA so there is no change in safety .

The real problem with participation numbers now is it is a rolling 2 year count. We got that 119 in 2017 which was an anomaly because the Runoffs were at Indy. 2016 we had 74 plus 10 from the Runoffs...

Jerry you only get 1 per entry for a Major so if the NAF1000 were to have ran Majors last and did 6 with an average of 6 entries they would have received 36 towards class participation . In order to...

There is no requirement for all the cars to be competitive .Fb's numbers have reached the point it should no longer be a runoffs class . The path to a Runoffs class is not new only the name has...

We needed another 119 entries to be invited to the 2019 runoffs. So if the NAF1000 series could have given us the numbers if they ran 6 Majors instead of 6 regionals it would have required NAF1000...

In my opinion there is only two viable choices in this poll ( option 1 and option 3)

Every car in FA has either fixed engine rules or restrictors so I think you are dreaming if you think they...

The uptick in 2017 was from the runoffs being at Indy.

You can ask Thomas who introduced the Geartronics.

Stan those times are from the race which had a couple of full course yellows . If you look at the qualifying results the fastest FB was a couple tenths faster than the fastest FA in two out of the...

I was involved in the group that worked on the original rules that were presented to apply for the class. The original proposal was for a low cost high performance class.

After being accepted the...

It won't be automatic according to the GCR but classes may be added .The runoffs classes are supposed to be announced by January 1st. Twenty one classes have automatically made it.Personally I think...

It is allowed in the engine rules.Look in the GCR.

A ow20,0w30,w40, 0w50 etc are not 0w at operating temps.A 0w20 is a 20w oil , a 0w30 is a 30w oil,a 0w40 is a 40w oil and a 0w50 is a 50w oil. They have a 0w viscosity when cold.Once the oil gets...

I will take some pictures this weekend and post a few.

Thanks Gary

Gary,
I started on this car 10 years ago and got the frame about 2/3 done when I switched jobs. But I only got about 10 days a year off at the new job and usually had to work 10 to 14 hours a day....

We need one more entry for Portland and 8 more entries for the Pacific Major the following week. Plus we need 8 entries in every Major race for the remainder of this year in order to automatically...

Stan the problem with that is these engines are fragile enough and the last I talked to a DSR owner just before DSR bit the dust they said a competitive engine program was 50K per year.

I don't...

Well group 2 has had their way for the last few years and the participation numbers for FB were 15th of all classes in 2014,19th of all classes in 2015 and 25th of all classes in 2016.

So it...

The FA's are not faster at every track. The Runoffs are going to Mid Ohio next year so how did the FA's and FB's compare at this years Major at Mid Ohio.

First Qual 4.293 sec difference advantage...

Looking at the lap times from the runoffs if we don't want to restrict our speed we should be combined with FA.

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Here is a dyno comparison posted by...

I think the comparison was done with stock motorcycles on a motorcycle chassis dyno with stock exhaust and untouched ECU's. So all the engines will have more when put in our cars with different...

I fail to see how these three engines (BMW,Suzuki and Yamaha) in this dyno comparison that George posted could be equalized with RPM.You could equalize peak HP by having no limit on the...

Pegasus has it but not full sheets. 19.5" xd 39" is their largest

It is listed on Race Monitor if the live timing link doesn't pan out.

On the F1000 Championship Home page there is a link to live timing and audio. At the present time when clicked on it says coming soon.Hopefully that means when the weekend gets underway.

That is true. The place that the additional HP will make a difference will be top speed on the straights because the acceleration is minor compared to the aerodynamic drag.

If a 197HP car and a...

It will probably take a few things to find a solution.

1 Someone unbiased like George Dean to do the testing

2 A new generation Kawasaki to use for the tests

3 Some restrictor plates of...

Rob you may do it cheaper if you buy a new bike and part it out but that is not how the masses will buy. On the new engine thread it was posted that a new Kawasaki crate motor with electronics,oil...

IMHO now IS the time to restrict or don't ever restrict.

If we restrict to the current level the only competitors that have to go to the next generation engines are ones that need an engine now...

Brandon may be one of those in the opinions from within the class.

It has been in the rules from the beginning to use restrictors if there was an escalation of horsepower by the manufacturers.
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Jon,
I am building a car and will not have it completed until the end of May or middle of June.I was planning on doing the last three events.I thought that your series announcements were the real...

Where in the 2012 tow fund announcement that was previously posted and downloaded as a PDF file from your website is there anything about the tow fund only being available to full season drivers or...

What is with the bait and switch on the 2012 towing?

If the BMW & Kawasaki powerplants end up being reliable with 15 to 20 horsepower more where do you expect those competitors to put the 125+ pounds of extra weight it would require to equalize the lap...

Dustin,
That is what I noticed when spectating at Pacific Raceways and mentioned in a different thread on here.I had planned to get a decision at the Portland Double National but did not have the...

Jon,
For those of us on the left coast that might want to tow over for the two weekends will there be a tow fund payout for each weekend or one for both weekends?

Richard,
I hadn't heard anything about that rule being interpreted any other way but wasn't sure it hadn't been clarified some other way by SCCA.


Do you think adding the 6-8 inches in would...

I went to the Monday race to check things out.The top cars all looked pretty equal in the engine department in the Monday race.The engine rules may need some clarification but from what I saw I think...

I don't want to hijack this thread but J.R. did you get the BMW sorted at Portland and will you be running it at Pacific Raceways?

Which manufacturer specifications will you be using.I have 07-08 Yamaha engines.The factory service manual lists the designed/claimed compression ratio at 12.7.

In the cylinder head...

Gary I already have a system but am not convinced that manual won't work just fine. There are plenty DSR's running manual with good results. I am not convinced that nobody can run a manual system...