A question for those with multiple drivers: Are there any good ways to quickly change car numbers since we can't use magnetic numbers?
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A question for those with multiple drivers: Are there any good ways to quickly change car numbers since we can't use magnetic numbers?
blue tape unless you have a blue car :)
you can also try the static cling type numbers, but it's helpful to tape down the leading edges of the numbers
Good question, I'm still looking for a better answer.
My "196" is permanently attached and I cover the "1" with body colored racer tape. It works ok but it's not as nice as I'd like. I made some properly shaped, body colored "1"s and put double sticky tape on them to hold them on the car. Hmmm, didn't work, I lost them a couple times at nats :-(
I'm tempted by velcro.....
Barry
Programmable LED panel? :p
Currently doing same thing as Barry.
OT, Niel, let me know when/if you're coming out to a CalClub solo/practice. I heading towards a VD/Honda.
Robert, check is on its way to me. Car staying local.
I used static cling material on my fiberglass bodied 914-6 when we were soloing.
I found very dark thick plastic material designed for window tinting. I cut out numbers and it would just stick if both surfaces were clean.
Tech at Nationals said blue tap was not Ok, but not an issue for Tech. They said as long as it was a good contrast, the course monitor would probably not give me any trouble and they did not.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisw52
So I, too would like another solution.
Mark
Black car........black electical tape to cover the one for me.
You might check with Jayson Woodruff in our region Neil. He may be able to make you a low tack number cover to match your paint.
I had number plates velcroed on the A Mod and it worked very well.
Removable / repositional vinyl decal material.
I have a partial roll of flat black.
I have "159" in permanent vinyl on the car, and then cover the "1" with body-colored masking tape. It's worked great so far - sticks reasonably well even when wet & dirty (just a quick wipe of a towel was all we gave it before sticking the numbers). Never had it even get loose before, much less any concern of it actually falling off. If we take our time putting the tape on so that it covers all of the "1", you can't even tell that the 1 was ever there from 50'/50mph (the tape's "sheen" even matches the car's paint).
Of course maybe it matches a bit too well... we've been caught before forgetting to change numbers between drivers.
Previously, I printed up as large a numbers I could on both sides of a 8.5x11” piece of paper which I then laminated. This “number plate” was then slid into a clear file protector that was racers taped to the side car with the top being open. Worked great.
My current preference is to use contrasting racers tape to make a “1” with the upper left corner folded back on itself (makes for quick removal). I move the number “1” from above to in front of the base number. If you are worried about pulling paint off when switching numbers, remove some of the racer tape adhesiveness by sticking/removing it from a piece of clothing.
A variation on the theme, I have a squarish Font #88 , taping off segments to create almost any number required.
I have cut numbers from white contact paper like the stuff used to line drawers in the kitchen. It is cheap, sticks well, easy to remove and don't leave any sticky glue. Much better than painter's tape. Just make up a whole pile of numbers to take to the event. It's a great project for the kids.
What Ian said. Removable / repositional vinyl decal material.
When I purchased the permanent numbers I also purchased some "1"s that were removable. Works great. However they don't last more than a half dozen events. But I have a bunch of them. I also have some stock material now and can trace out new numbers.
Sounds like a lot of work but I have to do this because there are some custom graphics under the numbers that would look terrible if I covered permanent "1"s with tape the general color of the car.
However that's what I used to do with my previous car which was a single color. Worked nice. Couldn't see that the "1" had been covered once you got 20' away.
I print numbers out on printer paper and cover them with TracWrap to adhere them to the car. It is cheap enough to throw away or if you remove them and store them on a piece of plastic they are reusable.
If you want to you can even cut out the numbers.
Cheap and easy.
You can use any font and any color.
I suppose it would be possible to make a white "meatball" out of magnetic vinyl material, adhere it to the bodywork with low tack adhesive and then use magnetic numbers...
Just make sure you really need the extra weight :D
Cut the numbers out of self adhesive vinyl shelf paper.
My ones have the 3M heavy duty velcro on them. Works awesome if your car is black or white (the two colors it comes in) because the patches on the car barely show. Need to replace the patches about every 4 or 5 years. This is the stuff that has plastic 'mushrooms' on both sides, not the hook and loop type.
Don
Hey Don, what did you make your "1"s out of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Elzinga
Thanks,
Barry
There's a plastic shop near here. I bought a chunk of 1/8" thick white polycarbonate scrap for a few bucks. It's surprisingly brittle for polycarbonate. Not sure if it's because it's an off-brand (not Lexan), or if the white coloring weakens it, or if it's just really old. But it's perfect for numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Ott
Don
Thanks Don!Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Elzinga
How about simply adhering a layer of colored vinyl to an appropriate width strip of the 3M material on the adhesive side? If your numbers are black you could use the plain back version. http://www.mcmaster.com/#hook-and-lo...teners/=ppg1ybQuote:
Originally Posted by Barry Ott
The numbers and letters on one side of my car are too close together to add a "1". Good thing I rarely, if ever, have a co-driver. No room for a "1" and my pedals are far to close for "normal":) height men.
Dick
Who takes the "solo" in "Solo" literally.
That would be overkill. I use three little half inch long by inch wide patches of the mushroom material per one. Here's the actual material:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick R.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#hook-and-lo...teners/=pph4e2
Going for $4.27/ft today.
Don
When get around to doing this, I'll copy Peter Schroder's (and Per's) way. Have a permanent 1 and cover it with body color panel. http://sportsracernet.smugmug.com/Cu...dpalmbay-M.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Don Elzinga
3M Command brand has better 'velcro' options. Little strips with nubs that interlock. Maybe this--> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg
Near as I can tell from the thumbnail picture, that's the same fastener I use but with the quick-release adhesive strips on the back. Not sure those would hold up on a racecar.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamFRD
Blank space, add a one for the 2nd driver, or permanent one, cover it; either works.
Don
I was at the PRI show in Indy yesterday and there was a company there from Pensacola FL and their business card was made from a reusable vinyl which they called stick/restick. I peeled there card off the backing and stuck it on and removed it from my fender about a dozen times and it felt like it didn't lose any of it bonding. This might work for changing numbers. I do not know what they cost or the minimal amount but going by the other things they had, the prices on them were reasonable. Not affiliated or don't know them or anything, just a thought. The name of the place is The Label co. www.labelco.com
:beer: Graham.
Thanks, Graham.
I think the URL might need to have a "the" in front:
http://www.thelabelco.com/
Just make a panel that fits on top with a pair of 1/4 turn fasteners. Alternate panels can have different numbers, names, contingency sponsor decals, etc.
When I first started racing, I tried doing taped on numbers in the shape of LCD numbers, just having to change the small segments to change numbers. Timing and scoring did not like them - didn't think they were clearly distinguishable.
- Frank C
We have done some pretty cool reusable numbers out of " Fat Head " material. We do a lot of race car graphics and have printed a number of these for both race cars and go karts. As long as the surfaces are clean, they stick real well. Number panels, sponsor decals can be printed directly to the material, and die cut to a specific shape or design. If any one is interested, send me a note and I can forward a picture.
You can actually peal these numbers off, roll them up in a ball, and then pull them apart and reuse them endless times.
GV at ApexKartSports
Do you have an email address we should use? I tried GV@ApexKartSports.com but it bounced. I also don't have and option to pm you..Quote:
Originally Posted by ApexKartSports
Thanks,
Barry Ott
As mentioned in post #10, I can print or cut repositional vinyl ("fat head" material).
Ian Lenhart
Ian@level11creative.com
Level 11 Creative
414-719-2043
Sorry, I didn't realize you could do that for us. Watch for an email! Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian Lenhart
Barry
sorry, neglected to include email...
apexkart@comcast.net or text 978-479-7974
Ian made me some Red "Fat head" material. It's white FH material with red decal attached to it to match my car. It makes a nice, thick "1" cover. It sticks really well yet peels nicely without leaving any residue. Very Cool.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Barry
Barry do you think the stuff would be strong enough to peel, restick, peel, etc if just a "1" were cut out and not a rectangle with a 1 on it?
It sure feels like it will. I'm going to make "1" covers that are slightly larger than the "1"s on the car and stick, peel, restick, repeat... i.e. My car has white decal 196's permanently attached and I'll make "1"s out of my new red Fat Head material to cover the white "1"s on the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Garry
I've tried a few things so far and this feels like the best yet. To me, it feels like static cling but with better cling. It's also thicker than static cling so it stays flatter, making it easier to position, and easier to handle when it's not stuck to anything. I'm curious to see how it does in varying weather conditions, hot, cold, wet, but I'm very optimistic :-)
Barry
I made my 1 covers today, they work great! Well, I didn't actually drive the car, but I'm 99.99% sure they'll stay on just fine. I made a test piece (also known as a piece I screwed up) and stuck/removed it from the fridge in my shop about 50 times. I couldn't feel any difference in "stickyness", no residue on the fridge, great!
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
That's great! The ones I've been using fall apart after a couple of events.
I wonder if an e-ink display could be stuck to the car and just programmed for each event.. just to be different
http://www.eink.com/rugged.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikey
I'm sure it could... or for that matter for $40/ea you could buy two used Amazon Kindle's off eBay. The question is... would that be high enough contrast for real world usage? At 25' it's probably clear as day, but at 50'? What about with poor lighting conditions? You'd have to put them in zip-lock bags for rain.