Fc runoffs entries reach 32!!

0	MD Mark Defer	FC	Van Diemen RF02	Aurora, OH
2	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/9193c4e.../-/format/jpg/ Dane Babkirk	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/e8b9ce3.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen FC	Spokane, WA	ES3 Creative
02	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/51e83bd.../-/format/jpg/ Mark Hutchison	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/80e114b.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen US99	Mukwonago, WI	Norton/Hutchison Motorsports
04	GC Greg Coffin	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/bc161c3.../-/format/jpg/2007 Mygale SJ07	Veradale, WA	Hayes Cages
05	DL Devin Lesueur	FC	2002 Van Diemen RF02	Saint Charles, IL	OSQ Hoosier Tire
11	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/0bcc28b.../-/format/jpg/ Robert Armington	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/48de376.../-/format/jpg/2000 Van Diemen RF00	STATELINE, NV	APEX Promotions
13	SS Simon Sikes	FC	2014 Citation	Martinez , GA	RiceRace, Hoosier, Quicksilver, Group 6, Susi Uhl Art
14	PM Paul Marino	FC	2006 Van Diemen	Chatsworth, Ca	H&M Racing/Impress Communications
16	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/756a5f0.../-/format/jpg/ Eric Presbrey	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/0dcb3ba.../-/format/jpg/2000 VanDiemen RF03	Ridgefield, CT	Centrical/KK Motorsports
17	JL John Burton LaRue	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/c79bed4.../-/format/jpg/2007 Citation Snipe FZ	Muncie, IN	CarbonTech, Elder Law
18	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/a99a801.../-/format/jpg/ Tom Hope	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/34dd222.../-/format/jpg/2008 RFR FC	Downey, CA	HMRacing
35	CS Charles Shaffer	FC	2000 Van Diemen RF00	Catlett, VA	Team Shaffer Motorsporst
39	EB Eric M. Burkard	FC	Mygale F2000	Saint Louis, MO	Expert Dent Repair
40	CM Chuck Moran	FC	1999 Van Dieman RF99	Oakton, VA
42	BJ Bill Johnson	FC	2001 Van Diemen RF01-2	Leawood, KS	Portable Work Tools, Inc
44	CS Chris Scharnow	FC	2001 Van Diemen RF01	Saint Petersburg, FL	Morgan Stanley, LTD Motorsports
45	DK Dean Kiriluk	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/2b29619.../-/format/jpg/2001 Van Diemen RF01 2	Orchard Lake, MI	KIRCO, KIRCO MANIX, LTD Motorsports
46	DR Douglas Rocco	FC	VanDiemen DPO2-8	Sandisfield, MA	BLUE CHIP DIESEL
48	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/782f1b8.../-/format/jpg/ Alex Tollefsen	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/2193f24.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen RF99	Brooklyn, NY	Tollefsen Racing
52	RA Robert Allaer	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/85396bb.../-/format/jpg/2002 Van Diemen RF02	Grosse Pointe Woods, MI	Martini / Chandon / Evan Williams / LTD Motorsports
55	MF Mauro Fauza	FC	2003 Van Diemen RF03	manalapan, NJ	Greene Marble & Granite
59	DM Dennis McCarthy	FC	2017 Piper	Hartsdale, NY	PIPER
61	RE Reece Everard	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/01c381e.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen	Lake Orion, MI	Reece Everard Motorsports
65	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/e36ca24.../-/format/jpg/ Michael Varacins	FC	2020 Van Diemen F2000	Burlington, WI	Pepperball / LifeLite / Hoosier
66	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/cdcdec6.../-/format/jpg/ Gabriele Jasper	FC	2004 Van Diemen Rf44	Toms River, NJ
75	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/1350c2d.../-/format/jpg/ Rick Payne	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/3425309.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen RF99	Mission, BC	Payton Pools
77	NA Nolan Allaer	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/ebcfeb7.../-/format/jpg/2002 Van Diemen RF02	Grosse Pointe, MI	Martini / Evan Williams Whiskey / LTD Motorsports
80	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/5dccea7.../-/format/jpg/ Lyn Greenhill	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/c29cca3.../-/format/jpg/2002 Van Diemen RF02	Rocklin, CA	DynaTech Engineering/Red Dot Racing
88	TM Tim Minor	FC	2010 Citation Citation	Fredericksburg, VA	Automotive Specialist Center,Hoosier Tire,Bungalow Lake House
91	TW Trent Walko	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/40baeaa.../-/format/jpg/2013 Van Diemen RF-06 2797	Trafford, Pa	Global Racing Team
96	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/a0505f0.../-/format/jpg/ Brian Tomasi	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/55706a4.../-/format/jpg/2006 Van Diemen RF06	Elgin, IL	Hoosier Race Tires, Subway,
99	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/3269470.../-/format/jpg/ Peter West	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/f3b89e1.../-/format/jpg/2005 Van Diemen RF05	Malibu, CA	Racing Optics/Alpinestars/Frank Monise Motors

I would probably make it 33 if I could get on the track before the first qualifying session. I had planned on going this year;
Skip Weld

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0	MD Mark Defer	FC	Van Diemen RF02	Aurora, OH
2	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/9193c4e.../-/format/jpg/ Dane Babkirk	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/e8b9ce3.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen FC	Spokane, WA	ES3 Creative
02	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/51e83bd.../-/format/jpg/ Mark Hutchison	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/80e114b.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen US99	Mukwonago, WI	Norton/Hutchison Motorsports
04	GC Greg Coffin	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/bc161c3.../-/format/jpg/2007 Mygale SJ07	Veradale, WA	Hayes Cages
05	DL Devin Lesueur	FC	2002 Van Diemen RF02	Saint Charles, IL	OSQ Hoosier Tire
11	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/0bcc28b.../-/format/jpg/ Robert Armington	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/48de376.../-/format/jpg/2000 Van Diemen RF00	STATELINE, NV	APEX Promotions
13	SS Simon Sikes	FC	2014 Citation	Martinez , GA	RiceRace, Hoosier, Quicksilver, Group 6, Susi Uhl Art
14	PM Paul Marino	FC	2006 Van Diemen	Chatsworth, Ca	H&M Racing/Impress Communications
16	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/756a5f0.../-/format/jpg/ Eric Presbrey	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/0dcb3ba.../-/format/jpg/2000 VanDiemen RF03	Ridgefield, CT	Centrical/KK Motorsports
17	JL John Burton LaRue	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/c79bed4.../-/format/jpg/2007 Citation Snipe FZ	Muncie, IN	CarbonTech, Elder Law
18	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/a99a801.../-/format/jpg/ Tom Hope	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/34dd222.../-/format/jpg/2008 RFR FC	Downey, CA	HMRacing
35	CS Charles Shaffer	FC	2000 Van Diemen RF00	Catlett, VA	Team Shaffer Motorsporst
39	EB Eric M. Burkard	FC	Mygale F2000	Saint Louis, MO	Expert Dent Repair
40	CM Chuck Moran	FC	1999 Van Dieman RF99	Oakton, VA
42	BJ Bill Johnson	FC	2001 Van Diemen RF01-2	Leawood, KS	Portable Work Tools, Inc
44	CS Chris Scharnow	FC	2001 Van Diemen RF01	Saint Petersburg, FL	Morgan Stanley, LTD Motorsports
45	DK Dean Kiriluk	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/2b29619.../-/format/jpg/2001 Van Diemen RF01 2	Orchard Lake, MI	KIRCO, KIRCO MANIX, LTD Motorsports
46	DR Douglas Rocco	FC	VanDiemen DPO2-8	Sandisfield, MA	BLUE CHIP DIESEL
48	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/782f1b8.../-/format/jpg/ Alex Tollefsen	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/2193f24.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen RF99	Brooklyn, NY	Tollefsen Racing
52	RA Robert Allaer	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/85396bb.../-/format/jpg/2002 Van Diemen RF02	Grosse Pointe Woods, MI	Martini / Chandon / Evan Williams / LTD Motorsports
55	MF Mauro Fauza	FC	2003 Van Diemen RF03	manalapan, NJ	Greene Marble & Granite
59	DM Dennis McCarthy	FC	2017 Piper	Hartsdale, NY	PIPER
61	RE Reece Everard	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/01c381e.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen	Lake Orion, MI	Reece Everard Motorsports
65	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/e36ca24.../-/format/jpg/ Michael Varacins	FC	2020 Van Diemen F2000	Burlington, WI	Pepperball / LifeLite / Hoosier
66	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/cdcdec6.../-/format/jpg/ Gabriele Jasper	FC	2004 Van Diemen Rf44	Toms River, NJ
75	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/1350c2d.../-/format/jpg/ Rick Payne	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/3425309.../-/format/jpg/1999 Van Diemen RF99	Mission, BC	Payton Pools
77	NA Nolan Allaer	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/ebcfeb7.../-/format/jpg/2002 Van Diemen RF02	Grosse Pointe, MI	Martini / Evan Williams Whiskey / LTD Motorsports
80	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/5dccea7.../-/format/jpg/ Lyn Greenhill	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/c29cca3.../-/format/jpg/2002 Van Diemen RF02	Rocklin, CA	DynaTech Engineering/Red Dot Racing
88	TM Tim Minor	FC	2010 Citation Citation	Fredericksburg, VA	Automotive Specialist Center,Hoosier Tire,Bungalow Lake House
91	TW Trent Walko	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/40baeaa.../-/format/jpg/2013 Van Diemen RF-06 2797	Trafford, Pa	Global Racing Team
96	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/a0505f0.../-/format/jpg/ Brian Tomasi	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/55706a4.../-/format/jpg/2006 Van Diemen RF06	Elgin, IL	Hoosier Race Tires, Subway,
99	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/3269470.../-/format/jpg/ Peter West	FC	https://dl.motorsportreg.com/f3b89e1.../-/format/jpg/2005 Van Diemen RF05	Malibu, CA	Racing Optics/Alpinestars/Frank Monise Motors

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I don't know about the rest of you but there seem to be a lot of drivers MIA .. especially those so vocal about spec tires and putting weight in ztec cars .... you got your bias ply tires that are super affordable plus only 2 sets allowed all week and added weight to the Ztec's Where oh where are all of those Pinto entrees ?????

Didn’t larue want this bs to bring out the pintos?? LOL bob hit the mail on the head let’s get back open tires and 1200lbs FYI pintos are dead they will never be back.

Here's a thought:

Spec tires may have brought out 32 entries instead of the usual 9. Just saying. Not a sermon.

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Originally Posted by Purple Frog

Here's a thought:

Spec tires may have brought out 32 entries instead of the usual 9. Just saying. Not a sermon.

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There has been some push about the 35th and Indy is a 'destination'. Not sure Kansas would get the same numbers.
Point taken though.

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Originally Posted by tahoe z

Didn’t larue want this bs to bring out the pintos?? LOL bob hit the mail on the head let’s get back open tires and 1200lbs FYI pintos are dead they will never be back.

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When I owned a Pinto I always pushed for changes we could make to the Pinto for reliability and parity - never ever suggested modifications to Zetec cars. Yeah, making the Zetecs add weight was surprising to me.

The spec tire is a good thing. $900 mounted balanced and taxed. Everyone baulked at the bias ply as first but with a few exceptions it has been a good tire. Not hearing complaints.

Whether it brings out Pintos or not we should keep a spec tire.

My response was meant to get the drivers on the fence to jump in , not create opportunity to discuss open tire rule validity . Its done and I thought that would bring more cars out ,,, and yes 32 entries is awesome but lets see what happens next year at VIR . If we could get LaRue to consider letting the MZR motor into FC then we would have plenty of entries for this year and in the future to have our own race again .. Just thoughts .... lets not get too excited ... We are just a few short weeks before what looks to be one of best FC runoffs classes in many many years . I'm so stoked to part of it ....

Robert

Robert, I think it would be safe to say that most of the top shelf driver and chassis combinations are Zetec powered and that might be a reason for the lack of Pinto powered entries.

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Originally Posted by Purple Frog

Here's a thought:

Spec tires may have brought out 32 entries instead of the usual 9. Just saying. Not a sermon.

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Spec tires may have added a couple cars. No way is it the reason for the bigger number. It's a combination of the destination (Indy - SCCA numbers are up overall) and the excitement around the event that the guys on facebook and on here have been pushing.

No way did suddenly 20 guys say, "Spec tire"! I can enter the runoffs now!!

Remember - before the spec tire and weight - Laguna had 26+ entries at this point.


Just common sense replying... not a sermon either...

I haven't entered the Runoffs since 2013. Part of that reason was the "tire of the week" syndrome. And more than a few potential entrants have complained about having to buy, test, and run "the tire" to be competitive.

So while the spec tire may not be responsible for a majority of 2021 Indy Runoffs entrants, I'm positive it it made some think: now I can at least not have to worry about which tire is going to have an advantage. To me that's a pretty daggone big factor.

Because the spec tire is now required, I know I will be more likely to enter future Runoffs. This year my hip issues have prevented me from doing much racing. Hopefully next year those issues will be gone.

Personally, we are going DESPITE it being at Indy. The only track I would less want to race at on the eastern half of the country would be Daytona.

If we get 28 that actually show up and start, that will be a 250% increase on the 11 that started in 2020. That would be incredible!

I think that the spec tire achievement (it is a massive achievement) and the concentrated effort to grow and celebrate the class, has had a very significant effect on the perceptions of the class. Instead of a fragmented collection of individual racers with the full range of personal agendas, we now have a FC Group. There needs to be a sense of purpose and passion for the class. That group outlook is what is needed to convince people to invest in cars, engines, tires, etc. . While I am not yet passionate enough to invest in a weeks worth of private testing, I have invested in an engine rebuild, so we will now have a Runoffs engine that was freshened in the last decade. I am also selling a FC program for 2022. Ten months ago I did not see either of those occurrences on my horizon.

Still a long way to go but, awesome job, by all involved.

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Personally, we are going DESPITE it being at Indy. The only track I would less want to race at on the eastern half of the country would be Daytona...

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Actually, I'd prefer Daytona over Indy. The Indy track layout does not attract me at all.

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Actually, I'd prefer Daytona over Indy. The Indy track layout does not attract me at all.

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I understand that. I just don't want to see my driver, or friends, spending 30 seconds per lap pack racing at 150 mph in a tube-frame formula car. I am just a wus I guess. I want a classic proper race track like the Glen, Road Atlanta, Road America, or VIR. Mid-Ohio was the best venue for a National Championship event that we could ever have ..... just too many people whining about having to park on the grass.

My personal opinion and not relevant to anything, other than that class growth is much more than the track. At the 2017 Runoffs at Indy, 14 FC cars started, so 28 would be a 200% increase.

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...I want a classic proper race track like the Glen, Road Atlanta, Road America, or VIR. Mid-Ohio was the best venue for a National Championship event that we could ever have ..... just too many people whining about having to park on the grass...

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I agree - I was just expressing my dislike of Indy.

Here I was thinking it was because of Throwback Thursdays.

Dave and Greg
What do you guys dislike about Indy?
I personally really enjoyed the track (more so the FRP/Indycar layout than the layout SCCA used, but still).
It is a very good track for actual racing with multiple passing zones and has a good flow. I think Road America has more time at wot than Indy and if you factor it as a percentage of overall lap time Road Atlanta and VIR are likely in the same ballpark for % of the lap at wot.
Surprised about Mid Ohio, a very parade like track, specifically with wings.
To me, Sebring is a great track for a national championship...tricky surface to master, lots of varying speed corners, multiple passing zones, a challenging track.

Anyways, back on topic. I can't wait to see how the race turns out this year. I am anxious to get a 2 liter car and join the fun. I hope that those that have cars and are participating can keep the momentum up and find some common events next year to have quality grids, whether it be FRP or SCCA.

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Originally Posted by andyllc

Dave and Greg
What do you guys dislike about Indy?
I personally really enjoyed the track (more so the FRP/Indycar layout than the layout SCCA used, but still).
It is a very good track for actual racing with multiple passing zones and has a good flow...

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I don't like it because there are too many 90* corners and chicanes which I have never really enjoyed. And the fast corners are basically flat out. I have always enjoyed fast turns that are not flat out or at least take some balls to drive flat out. Just my preferences.

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If we get 28 that actually show up and start, that will be a 250% increase on the 11 that started in 2020. That would be incredible!
Math good!

Runoffs at Indy, 14 FC cars started, so 28 would be a 200% increase.

Math bad!

But math aside, I couldn't agree more.

i hated indy,,,,,, was decribed to me as 2 drag strips connected by autocross's ,,, . for me no flow

Whether you consider the Indy track to be the Holy Grail, or just another R-oval, whether because, or despite, that is where the 35th Anniversary race is. Looks like we are up to 34 entries.

One more week until the entry fee goes up. Who will be #35?