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Their has been a rash of trailer break ins in So Cal. My trailer was broken into yesterday it is marked Warning GPS Equipped and locked behind a Iron gate. they cut the lock on the gate and the hasp on the trailer, to their surprise the trailer was empty, Two weeks ago someone tried to steal my truck ,out of my driveway my neighbor ran out with his gun and scared them off. EMPTY your trailer when possible to minimize any losses.
Dee
Where are you located?
Wish I had neighbors like yours!!!:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Dee
Brazen. With absolutely no penalty for this behavior, my surmise is this misconduct will escalate.
Great idea about removing as much as possible.
trailer is in Torrance Ca and the truck is in Palos Verdes Ca
Dee
Palos Verdes is a pretty tony neighborhood for that kind of crime.
LAPD hasn't given two ****s about stolen vehicles for decades. If its some big chop-shop ring or exporting them to central america they're all over it, but just your car, nah, too busy. It appears the threshold for petty crime is now about $100K.
My wife grew up there. Geeez...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee
Not much is safe anymore.
This has become the Wild West everyone is packing
That's par for Cali these days good ol Newsome
Yeah, that’ll help...
This is the USA we live in today.
Either raise taxes for more police and prisons or accept the risk of possible loses occasionally. I think more prisons has been generally not proven to improve things.
Brian
Well the police forces are experiencing a great exodus. They can do everything right and still be sued. Ever increasing levels of personal liability. The public they have to deal with hates them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardingfv32
Prisons have become criminal training camps. What ever happened to chain gangs and skills training?
And the ones that volunteer to work such as the "smoke jumpers" cannot get those jobs once they leave prison because of their record.
I'm surprised the 'neighbor' in the original post hasn't been sued by the thief.
Every one locked up is one that cannot commit crimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardingfv32
Build more prisons, send more to them and problem solved.
It really is that simple.
The problem with that is they look at it as '3 hots and a cot' as my dad used to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLS
On the outside they have no (legal) skills and no prospects.
Build profit driven prisons and things will change. Somehow we have flipped the perpetrator/victim.
Civil rights somehow stopped prison labor. I'm not talking abuse. I'm talking earning your keep.
I thought your civil rights were suspended when you were in prison. How else could you be kept locked up.
I've always thought that our "punishment" system was too long, and too easy.
You cannot lock people away for 20 years, control every aspect of their lives, and expect them to make their way in society on return. Everything has changed so much that they can't function (arguably they couldn't function BEFORE they went in....)
IMHO, the sentences should be short, the labor hard (but relevant and paid) and there should be "exit criteria". NOBODY leaves without a GED. NOBODY leaves without a psych eval, and if it says you are a sociopath, then you ain't getting out, regardless of the sentence. They should come out with the tools to function and the desire to NEVER go through that again.
Serve the sentence, the whole sentence, no time off, etc, and when you are done, by definition you've "paid your debt to society", so the buck stops there, record cleared.
Murder? I'm a death penalty guy, only because it just costs too much to keep these guys locked up, and they have nothing to lose. I do believe that the bar to prove someone guilty of capital murder needs to be raised significantly and scientifically. No jailhouse squealers, no offering deals to accomplices, etc. But once proven, no lengthy appeals etc. Set the standards and meet them BEFORE the trial, not second guess it all afterwards. I could be persuaded, to allow people who commit crimes of passion and are repentant, to serve out their life sentences in their own separate little society like Snake Pliskin...working their asses off for their keep.
But sociopaths? Defective gene pool. Just off 'em and be done with it.
Higher taxes fix everything! Public education is great. We won the "war on poverty." Customer service at govt offices is excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardingfv32
Too many found innocent during these 'second' guess periods. We have good standards but the prosecution, police and defense quite often do not meet those standards. Are you willing to accept that some innocent people will be put to death?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Kirchner
Brian
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Originally Posted by BeerBudgetRacing
Increase pay and benefits, they will come.
If you want to lock up more or keep them longer it is going to take more money. Don't kid yourself, administering a more encompassing work program is going to take more money than you are going to net.
Are you 'law and order' type up for more taxes to pay for all this?
Brian
To quote myself:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardingfv32
There has been legislation proposed several times to expose law enforcement to total personal liability (aka lose your house).Quote:
Well the police forces are experiencing a great exodus. They can do everything right and still be sued. Ever increasing levels of personal liability. The public they have to deal with hates them.
The day that passes will be a 'blue pandemic'. No amount of money makes up for that. If you thought they didn't do enough now....
The cost of work programs should be born by the inmate in an 'earn your keep' program.
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Yep. Let’s go racing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dc
Then by definition nobody is really meeting those standards are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardingfv32
There are plenty of murder cases that are absolute in every way, no doubt who or why. Those cases should net the death penalty within 60 days, period. With who said, she said, he said , etc so maybe you have the long prison sentence. The former should understand society doesn't want them around and the consequence is known. Far too many criminals are given a myriad of excuses for committing the crime but the bottom line crime should have consequences and those should be significant and not fun! In the case of murder it's pretty hard to ask the victim isn't it?